Star Wars
#3776
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re: Star Wars
However, I think most people are fine with a lot of the small fixes, but object to the changes that become editorial, that affect characterization, emotion, or story, such as Greedo shooting first (or indeed, at all). In this case, the people asking for the original cuts are doing so because they'd rather live with the original flaws than endure the horrible changes.
And neither are suggesting the Altered Editions can't exist. They just want the original versions as an option.
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I'm not sure there's anyone saying that all the changes are bad. There may be some that would prefer to see the film as it originally was because of purist or historical reasons, but that's not because they don't think the changes are good, but rather because they don't want any changes.
However, I think most people are fine with a lot of the small fixes, but object to the changes that become editorial, that affect characterization, emotion, or story, such as Greedo shooting first (or indeed, at all). In this case, the people asking for the original cuts are doing so because they'd rather live with the original flaws than endure the horrible changes.
And neither are suggesting the Altered Editions can't exist. They just want the original versions as an option.
However, I think most people are fine with a lot of the small fixes, but object to the changes that become editorial, that affect characterization, emotion, or story, such as Greedo shooting first (or indeed, at all). In this case, the people asking for the original cuts are doing so because they'd rather live with the original flaws than endure the horrible changes.
And neither are suggesting the Altered Editions can't exist. They just want the original versions as an option.
#3778
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re: Star Wars
Some of the stuff I don't necessarily mind such as cleaned up effects and making things like the star fields look better. Overall most of the added stuff is shit though. The biggest reason to hate the special editions is the fact that Lucas wants people to accept those versions as definitive and won't give the option of viewing the original films in decent quality. Like mentioned if the original versions of the films were available along with the new versions I wouldn't care as much.
#3779
re: Star Wars
Making the star fields look better? The whacked contrast and overzealous automated clean-up apparent on the blu-rays have completely ruined a lot of the star fields.
#3780
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re: Star Wars
I haven't seen the Blu-ray versions but that's one of the fixes that was done at one point I thought looked okay.
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This is one of his changes:
Really? He removes that scene? Like it or not that scene is part of the movie.
Luke & Leia’s incestuous smooch has been removed. Sorry, but it has crawled up my last nerve to watch this shot ever since 1983 revealed their true relationship.
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This is one of his changes:
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Luke & Leia’s incestuous smooch has been removed. Sorry, but it has crawled up my last nerve to watch this shot ever since 1983 revealed their true relationship.
Really? He removes that scene? Like it or not that scene is part of the movie.
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Luke & Leia’s incestuous smooch has been removed. Sorry, but it has crawled up my last nerve to watch this shot ever since 1983 revealed their true relationship.
Really? He removes that scene? Like it or not that scene is part of the movie.
#3787
DVD Talk Legend & 2021 TOTY Winner
re: Star Wars
We talking the kiss in Star Wars or Empire? Because the kiss in Star Wars is nothing, a peck, and if it bothers anyone, they're ones with the problem. The kiss in Empire is pretty creepy in retrospect, doesn't mean I would take it out of the movie though.
#3788
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#3789
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re: Star Wars
Was really just curious which kiss he was referring to, or if he removed both of them.
#3790
DVD Talk Legend
re: Star Wars
http://fanedit.org/ifdb/component/co...pecial-edition
This is an issue with fan-edits: you may not agree with every change they make.
I once had the idea for a Blu-ray/DVD feature where with films with multiple edits on the disc, there could be a menu to create your own edit, with a checklist of scenes to include/exclude or switch between. I'm not sure how technically feasible it'd be, or if there'd be a director that'd allow it, but it'd be interesting.
#3792
DVD Talk Special Edition
re: Star Wars
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#3794
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re: Star Wars
I'd love to see a complete restoration with no changes but the cosmetic stuff really doesn't bother me that much. Adding extra scenes that don't fit or cramming extra creatures and aliens in scenes just for the sake of doing so are much more annoying.
#3795
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re: Star Wars
I'd be fine with that.
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On another note, I am shocked by how many people are under the impression that you need to go back to VHS or laserdisc to get the unedited originals. They were released on DVD via the 2006 double packs. Granted not enhanced, but beats laserdisc or VHS
#3798
DVD Talk Legend
re: Star Wars
They were but the way the originals were released on those DVDs was a joke. They weren't even anamorphic which was more than commonplace by the time those sets were released. They were done as "extra features" and in a way that most people who wanted them wouldn't be happy with.
#3799
re: Star Wars