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#1176
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Several questions:
1. Are there any details about restoration of the OT? Will it be the same Lowrey digital restoration from 2004?
2. Will there be a corresponding DVD release, or is this strictly Blu Ray only? If so will the current DVD's stay in print? For that matter is the box set with Empire of Dreams OOP?
3. The clincher for me that will decide if I buy this or not is the deleted scenes content for the OT. Is that ROTJ cave scene going to be included? ESB Wampa scenes? I want all the deleted SW scenes from that CD-Rom. If those are on there (in better quality) I'm all in.
I have an 84" screen and projector in a dedicated HT room and I'm still on the fence about buying this. BluRay provides an enhanced picture, but if the picture is still as "problematic" as the 2004 DVD's I don't think any enhancement will matter. 1080i of a restoration that fucks up the colors isn't an upgrade.
1. Are there any details about restoration of the OT? Will it be the same Lowrey digital restoration from 2004?
2. Will there be a corresponding DVD release, or is this strictly Blu Ray only? If so will the current DVD's stay in print? For that matter is the box set with Empire of Dreams OOP?
3. The clincher for me that will decide if I buy this or not is the deleted scenes content for the OT. Is that ROTJ cave scene going to be included? ESB Wampa scenes? I want all the deleted SW scenes from that CD-Rom. If those are on there (in better quality) I'm all in.
I have an 84" screen and projector in a dedicated HT room and I'm still on the fence about buying this. BluRay provides an enhanced picture, but if the picture is still as "problematic" as the 2004 DVD's I don't think any enhancement will matter. 1080i of a restoration that fucks up the colors isn't an upgrade.
2. As Blu-ray is still a relatively small market, it's hard to imagine Lucas passing up a chance to sell us another DVD set, but of course it will have to be pared down from the Blu feature set. As for the set that has Empire of Dreams, that's long been out of print but I see it at the used shops all the time, and ever since the first announcement of this Blu set a while back I see it even more and the price has gotten very low (like $15 for the whole box).
3. That's probably what could push me over the edge too. Right now I have no interest without the original versions of 4-6, but if the deleted scenes are really spectacular, I might convince myself to look for a bargain on this.
#1177
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I have two sets of the Faces VHS (both box types, I didn't set out to collect both types, it just happened) and then the blue hologram VHS box set, all three are in widescreen.
I also have one copy of the SE trilogy on LBX VHS (the original silver release), I also have a copy of ANH from the 2000 VHS LBX release that had a Episode II featurette and a very neat little promo for StarWars.com that uses footage from the four released movies at the time set to Duel of the Fates to show some of the parallels between the PT and OT. It's actually a very neat little bit of editing, and I'd love to have it in DVD quality, 16x9 of course.
I have two laserdisc sets, the Fox widescreen editions and the Faces version.
And I bought the first DVD box set of 4-6 and the individual 2 disc sets of the PT. I also have all of both Clone Wars series on DVD.
I have no current plans to buy this Bluray set, not with this feature-set anyways. Maybe if I had scored that $40 dollar B&N deal.
I also have one copy of the SE trilogy on LBX VHS (the original silver release), I also have a copy of ANH from the 2000 VHS LBX release that had a Episode II featurette and a very neat little promo for StarWars.com that uses footage from the four released movies at the time set to Duel of the Fates to show some of the parallels between the PT and OT. It's actually a very neat little bit of editing, and I'd love to have it in DVD quality, 16x9 of course.
I have two laserdisc sets, the Fox widescreen editions and the Faces version.
And I bought the first DVD box set of 4-6 and the individual 2 disc sets of the PT. I also have all of both Clone Wars series on DVD.
I have no current plans to buy this Bluray set, not with this feature-set anyways. Maybe if I had scored that $40 dollar B&N deal.
Widescreen VHS boxset of The Phantom Menace.
Star Wars a Musical Journey DVD (came with ROTS soundtrack)
Story of Star Wars (Walmart bonus disc with AOTC).
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what scene are you referring to specifically - you mean the sandstorm scene? I only ask because I swear I thought the TV cut of the film had a scene during the Rancor fight, where Luke leaps up to the grill in attempts to escape only to have his hands stepped on by one of the guards
#1179
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Okay, not trying to be pedantic, but your incorrect description is what's throwing people off: Luke is actually in Ben's house (as seen in ANH). It's a little confusing cause it's so darkly lit, but it's supposed to be part of the whole "has Luke gone to the dark side?" thing going on with Luke wearing black and stuff.
I imagine that since it was what they used to kick off the marketing for this set it will be included.
I imagine that since it was what they used to kick off the marketing for this set it will be included.
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Okay, not trying to be pedantic, but your incorrect description is what's throwing people off: Luke is actually in Ben's house (as seen in ANH). It's a little confusing cause it's so darkly lit, but it's supposed to be part of the whole "has Luke gone to the dark side?" thing going on with Luke wearing black and stuff.
I imagine that since it was what they used to kick off the marketing for this set it will be included.
I imagine that since it was what they used to kick off the marketing for this set it will be included.
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#1185
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My Star Wars collection to date:
Top row: Star Wars Droids VHS, Faces LD, OT Best Buy tin w/ OOT, VCD set
Second row: Faces LD DVD rips w/ supplement disc, SE LD DVD rips
Third row: Prequel trilogy, Wal-Mart Story of Star Wars, Original trilogy 4 disc box set
Bottom row: Star Wars Musical Journey, R2D2 Beneath the Dome
I also had Star Wars on VHS, and the faces VHS set in Pan and Scan.
I guess after seeing the underground releases and fan edits and what these fans have put together in special features, I'm kind of blah about the release. That combined with the many years of debates about the OOT and the SE and the numerous releases I've kind of been worn down and not super excited about the release.
Spoiler:
Top row: Star Wars Droids VHS, Faces LD, OT Best Buy tin w/ OOT, VCD set
Second row: Faces LD DVD rips w/ supplement disc, SE LD DVD rips
Third row: Prequel trilogy, Wal-Mart Story of Star Wars, Original trilogy 4 disc box set
Bottom row: Star Wars Musical Journey, R2D2 Beneath the Dome
I also had Star Wars on VHS, and the faces VHS set in Pan and Scan.
I guess after seeing the underground releases and fan edits and what these fans have put together in special features, I'm kind of blah about the release. That combined with the many years of debates about the OOT and the SE and the numerous releases I've kind of been worn down and not super excited about the release.
#1186
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I still can't believe how bad the artwork is. The 2004 boxset art was perfect. Maybe the individual movie cases will be OK...
Katie Lucas's twitter comment is just fanning the fire.![LOL](/images/smilies/lol.gif)
I've been holding out on buying the 2006 dvds because I thought a better version of the OOT would come out, but after seeing all the long lists of SW editions people own, I don't think I'll be feeling too bad if I buy them now... used for like $2 each.
Katie Lucas's twitter comment is just fanning the fire.
![LOL](/images/smilies/lol.gif)
I've been holding out on buying the 2006 dvds because I thought a better version of the OOT would come out, but after seeing all the long lists of SW editions people own, I don't think I'll be feeling too bad if I buy them now... used for like $2 each.
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No interest in buying if the unaltered OT is not included. No patience for prequels, and the modified OT just pisses me off.
The best thing put out by Lucasfilm in the last 20 years has been the Star Wars: The Musical Journey DVD. I still watch that, and like I said earlier, I watched ROTJ on Spike.
The best thing put out by Lucasfilm in the last 20 years has been the Star Wars: The Musical Journey DVD. I still watch that, and like I said earlier, I watched ROTJ on Spike.
#1189
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They're just putting a whole bunch of never before seen stuff together, including that lightsaber scene.
#1190
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I think too many fans have been caught up in Han Solo, their quest for a Boba Fett action figure with firing rocket pack and learning the names of tertiary characters to realize how peripheral those aspects really are.
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It was my understanding that scene was shown specifically as part of the promotional announcement of this forthcoming Blu-ray release, as a preview of the kind of thing that had been retrieved from the vault that we would finally get to see. I cannot imagine after being integral to the announcement that it would be absent.
#1192
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I'm sorry, but I don't buy it that anyone can come to that conclusion before the PT came out that Vader's story overrides Lukes in the OT only.
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That whole aspect is in the last 1/3 of Return of the Jedi? Star Wars/ANH has zero about the rise and fall of Darth Vader, simply because he wasn't even written as Lukes father in 1977. Empire doesn't really reveal anything about Vader and his heritage until the final act. The first hour of Jedi is all Jabba and Ewoks, so that leaves the final act of Jedi til you really get into the heart of Darth Vader and his struggle?
I'm sorry, but I don't buy it that anyone can come to that conclusion before the PT came out that Vader's story overrides Lukes in the OT only.![Old Rolleyes](/images/smilies/rolleyesold.gif)
I'm sorry, but I don't buy it that anyone can come to that conclusion before the PT came out that Vader's story overrides Lukes in the OT only.
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Where was the rise of Darth Vader again in the OT? Just wondering.
You don't have to be a savant to see themes of sacrifice at the end of ROTJ. Obviously that has religious underpinnings. And truth be told, it is probably the most emotional part of the OT - seeing Darth watching his kid being shocked and deciding to do what he must. But it doesn't make the story, his story.
The story was Luke's story. Lucas said it about a million times in that all those specials he made- comparing Luke's path to Joseph Campbell archetype hero paths, and Darth's final words confirm it:
LUKE
No. You're coming with me. I can't leave you
here. I've got to save you.
ANAKIN
You already have, Luke
You don't have to be a savant to see themes of sacrifice at the end of ROTJ. Obviously that has religious underpinnings. And truth be told, it is probably the most emotional part of the OT - seeing Darth watching his kid being shocked and deciding to do what he must. But it doesn't make the story, his story.
The story was Luke's story. Lucas said it about a million times in that all those specials he made- comparing Luke's path to Joseph Campbell archetype hero paths, and Darth's final words confirm it:
LUKE
No. You're coming with me. I can't leave you
here. I've got to save you.
ANAKIN
You already have, Luke
#1196
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Prequels were about Anakin, and the OT were about Luke.
I actually did check out Katie Lucas's twitter and after wading through all the Lady Gaga comments, did find that she posted the cover art was really all the marketing dept. Makes sense.
I actually did check out Katie Lucas's twitter and after wading through all the Lady Gaga comments, did find that she posted the cover art was really all the marketing dept. Makes sense.
#1197
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Where was the rise of Darth Vader again in the OT? Just wondering.
You don't have to be a savant to see themes of sacrifice at the end of ROTJ. Obviously that has religious underpinnings. And truth be told, it is probably the most emotional part of the OT - seeing Darth watching his kid being shocked and deciding to do what he must.
You don't have to be a savant to see themes of sacrifice at the end of ROTJ. Obviously that has religious underpinnings. And truth be told, it is probably the most emotional part of the OT - seeing Darth watching his kid being shocked and deciding to do what he must.
Also, considering during the whole production of Empire, Jedi was intended to have an entirely different plotline and resolution, it's amazing that they would stumble on 'what the saga was really about' at the proverbial last minute.
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Question: Did anyone need to see the prequels to understand that Anakin Skywalker became the powerful Sith Lord Darth Vader?
The story was Luke's story. Lucas said it about a million times in that all those specials he made...
What else could the prequels have been about that would have mattered, except how Anakin Skywalker became Darth Vader? I would accept this distinction if it weren't for the fact that Darth Vader is clearly at the heart of the OT, as well. From the moment he boards the Tantive IV and begins strangling rebels, it's clear that this is the personification of the entire conflict.
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