Star Trek XI in 2008 Written/Directed by JJ Abrams
08-12-08, 10:37 PM
#451
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Originally Posted by reverie
...And it seems Scotty actually grew more hair as time went on.
I guess Scotty didn't pass along the info to Picard.
08-12-08, 11:53 PM
#452
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Originally Posted by riley_dude
I still think they are going to do some better marketing than this to get newbies in the theater.
Trek has a bad name with most mainstream audiences. Marketing has to change that.
Trek has a bad name with most mainstream audiences. Marketing has to change that.
08-13-08, 10:59 AM
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I don't think "TREK" has a bad name...I just think they haven't put out a lot of good movies. The Box Office shows that when they do make a good film, people will flock to it (Voyage Home, First Contact).
09-08-08, 07:39 PM
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Anyone see this commerical of Star Trek KFC?
They did a good job trying to match the actors from the original show.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZBTDlvShYg
They did a good job trying to match the actors from the original show.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZBTDlvShYg
Last edited by Match; 09-08-08 at 07:44 PM.
09-08-08, 09:30 PM
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Anyone see this commerical of Star Trek KFC?
They did a good job trying to match the actors from the original show.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZBTDlvShYg
They did a good job trying to match the actors from the original show.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZBTDlvShYg
wow...excellent likeness to the original series cast!
09-09-08, 04:58 PM
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From AMC blog:
Shatner "wanted the movie to focus on him significantly" did he? Why does that not surprise me?
AMC: How do you react to William Shatner's ire at not having a role in the movie?
JJ Abrams: It was very tricky. We actually had written a scene with him in it that was a flashback kind of thing, but the truth is, it didn't quite feel right. The bigger thing was that he was very vocal that he didn't want to do a cameo. We tried desperately to put him in the movie, but he was making it very clear that he wanted the movie to focus on him significantly, which, frankly, he deserves. The truth is, the story that we were telling required a certain adherence to the Trek canon and consistency of storytelling. It's funny -- a lot of the people who were proclaiming that he must be in this movie were the same people saying it must adhere to canon. Well, his character died on screen. Maybe a smarter group of filmmakers could have figured out how to resolve that.
JJ Abrams: It was very tricky. We actually had written a scene with him in it that was a flashback kind of thing, but the truth is, it didn't quite feel right. The bigger thing was that he was very vocal that he didn't want to do a cameo. We tried desperately to put him in the movie, but he was making it very clear that he wanted the movie to focus on him significantly, which, frankly, he deserves. The truth is, the story that we were telling required a certain adherence to the Trek canon and consistency of storytelling. It's funny -- a lot of the people who were proclaiming that he must be in this movie were the same people saying it must adhere to canon. Well, his character died on screen. Maybe a smarter group of filmmakers could have figured out how to resolve that.
09-09-08, 09:52 PM
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While Roddenberry described Trek as "Wagon Train to the stars," he also referred to Kirk as a Horatio Hornblower in space - meaning the main focus of the series was his character. Which is what I think Shatner is probably about.
09-09-08, 10:05 PM
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Anyone see this commerical of Star Trek KFC?
They did a good job trying to match the actors from the original show.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZBTDlvShYg
They did a good job trying to match the actors from the original show.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZBTDlvShYg
That's Next Generation china!
09-09-08, 11:57 PM
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a lot of the people who were proclaiming that he must be in this movie were the same people saying it must adhere to canon. Well, his character died on screen. Maybe a smarter group of filmmakers could have figured out how to resolve that.
B) There's a good chunk of time between Star Trek VI and Generations.
C) No fan expects Star Trek to adhere to the canon of turdfests like Generations, Voyager, and Star Trek V -- only the good movies count.
09-10-08, 01:46 AM
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Well, you could pretend that, in Generations, Picard never left the Matrix, or whatever the hell it was, and that everything that happened in Generations after Picard entered the fantasyland and everything that came after it was just Picard living out a fantasy life.
So Captain Kirk never actually died because he never left the Matrix thing because that was just a fantasy of Picard's. Though you do have a problem with Worf, since he went on to join the crew of DS9.
You could also make the claim that Kirk (and Picard and Guinan) is still in the Nexus (Nexus... not Matrix... wrong franchise) because it appears to exist outside of normal time. So Kirk is always in it at any point in time.
So Captain Kirk never actually died because he never left the Matrix thing because that was just a fantasy of Picard's. Though you do have a problem with Worf, since he went on to join the crew of DS9.
You could also make the claim that Kirk (and Picard and Guinan) is still in the Nexus (Nexus... not Matrix... wrong franchise) because it appears to exist outside of normal time. So Kirk is always in it at any point in time.
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09-10-08, 06:57 AM
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I mentioned this somewhere, maybe earlier in this thread, but it would have been incredibly easy to "save" Kirk at the end of Generations.
Instead of falling to his death (the lamest death for a major character ever), they should have just had him fall into the matrix.
Instead of falling to his death (the lamest death for a major character ever), they should have just had him fall into the matrix.
09-10-08, 08:08 AM
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JJ Abrams:...Well, his character died on screen. Maybe a smarter group of filmmakers could have figured out how to resolve that.
"Smarter group of filmmakers?" Even a casual TREK fan could solve the "problem" of Kirk's death in GENERATIONS.
I'm STILL not 100% buying that JJ didn't use Shatner in the film...his answer sounds like a prepared one he told Bill he was going to use as "cover".
09-10-08, 08:16 AM
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09-10-08, 08:21 AM
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09-10-08, 10:18 AM
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Hello? This is a time travel movie where Spock goes into the past. Couldn't/wouldn't (considering what Kirk did for him in STAR TREK III) Spock do something that might prevent/warn Kirk about his fate in the future? Illogical yes, but Spock's human side would certainly come into play where Kirk as concerned.
09-10-08, 10:34 AM
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09-10-08, 10:45 AM
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09-10-08, 12:46 PM
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