Star Trek XI in 2008 Written/Directed by JJ Abrams
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Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt
Well, that's two people cast, two excellent choices by JJ. I can't wait to see who he hires for Uhura.
Maybe ALIAS' Merrin Dungrey?
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Yelchin sets course for 'Trek'
By Tatiana Siegel
Aug 8, 2007
J.J. Abrams is putting together his bridge crew for Paramount Pictures' 11th film in the "Star Trek" franchise. Russian-born Anton Yelchin is in negotiations to play Pavel Checkov, the Russian-born navigator of the USS Enterprise under the command of James T. Kirk.
Yelchin will join Zachary Quinto and Leonard Nimoy, who will both play the role of Mr. Spock. Casting is under way in New York and London for Kirk, Bones, Uhura, Sulu, Scotty, the film's villain and the Federation captain. Abrams, who will helm the untitled film, is expected to sign bigger-name actors for the latter two parts.
Plot details are being kept under wraps, but the story line is believed to chronicle the early days of the Enterprise crew during their time at Starfleet Academy.
Checkov was played by Walter Koenig on the original "Star Trek" TV series, and he is a key member of the Enterprise crew.
Abrams is producing the tentpole through his Paramount-based Bad Robot shingle. Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci penned the screenplay and will executive produce along with Bryan Burk and Damon Lindelof. The film is scheduled to bow on Christmas Day 2008.
Yelchin, whose recent credits include "Alpha Dog," next appears in "Charlie Bartlett" and "Finding t.A.T.u." He is repped by CAA.
By Tatiana Siegel
Aug 8, 2007
J.J. Abrams is putting together his bridge crew for Paramount Pictures' 11th film in the "Star Trek" franchise. Russian-born Anton Yelchin is in negotiations to play Pavel Checkov, the Russian-born navigator of the USS Enterprise under the command of James T. Kirk.
Yelchin will join Zachary Quinto and Leonard Nimoy, who will both play the role of Mr. Spock. Casting is under way in New York and London for Kirk, Bones, Uhura, Sulu, Scotty, the film's villain and the Federation captain. Abrams, who will helm the untitled film, is expected to sign bigger-name actors for the latter two parts.
Plot details are being kept under wraps, but the story line is believed to chronicle the early days of the Enterprise crew during their time at Starfleet Academy.
Checkov was played by Walter Koenig on the original "Star Trek" TV series, and he is a key member of the Enterprise crew.
Abrams is producing the tentpole through his Paramount-based Bad Robot shingle. Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci penned the screenplay and will executive produce along with Bryan Burk and Damon Lindelof. The film is scheduled to bow on Christmas Day 2008.
Yelchin, whose recent credits include "Alpha Dog," next appears in "Charlie Bartlett" and "Finding t.A.T.u." He is repped by CAA.
If this is about Kirk and spock's early days at Starfleet Academy, that would put them at 18 to 22 yeas old and Chekov, Sulu, and Uhura at 8 to 12.
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Originally Posted by movieguru
Aren't Chekov,Uhura, and Sulu at least 10 years younger than Kirk and Spock?
If this is about Kirk and spock's early days at Starfleet Academy, that would put them at 18 to 22 yeas old and Chekov, Sulu, and Uhura at 8 to 12.
If this is about Kirk and spock's early days at Starfleet Academy, that would put them at 18 to 22 yeas old and Chekov, Sulu, and Uhura at 8 to 12.
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Actually, I just looked these up on Memory Alpha:
Here are their birthyears followed by how old they would be if Kirk was 21:
Scotty - 2222 (32)
Bones - 2227 (27)
Kirk - 2233 (21)
Sulu - 2237 (18)
Uhura - 2239 (16)
Chekov - 2245 (10)
I still think that Bones is older than Scotty, but that's what the canon says.
Here are their birthyears followed by how old they would be if Kirk was 21:
Scotty - 2222 (32)
Bones - 2227 (27)
Kirk - 2233 (21)
Sulu - 2237 (18)
Uhura - 2239 (16)
Chekov - 2245 (10)
I still think that Bones is older than Scotty, but that's what the canon says.
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The kid who's playing Chekov is a good actor; at least he was very good as Hank Azaria's son Byrd on Showtime's Huff--although he seemed more like a pre-teen then than a teenager.
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Originally Posted by movieguru
Aren't Chekov,Uhura, and Sulu at least 10 years younger than Kirk and Spock?
If this is about Kirk and spock's early days at Starfleet Academy, that would put them at 18 to 22 yeas old and Chekov, Sulu, and Uhura at 8 to 12.
If this is about Kirk and spock's early days at Starfleet Academy, that would put them at 18 to 22 yeas old and Chekov, Sulu, and Uhura at 8 to 12.
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I've heard the Kirk in this movie is supposed to be around 27-years-old, so do the math for the other characters from there.
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#210
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Argh...for the umteenth time this ISN'T an Academy movie...it's a "First Mission" movie. Kirk will be a CAPTAIN in this film (or at the very least on his way to being one), not a CADET. Repeating once again: NOT a Starfleet Academy movie! ![Smilie](/images/smilies/smile.gif)
I've heard the Kirk in this movie is supposed to be around 27-years-old, so do the math for the other characters from there.![Smilie](/images/smilies/smile.gif)
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I've heard the Kirk in this movie is supposed to be around 27-years-old, so do the math for the other characters from there.
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Didn't kirk become Captain when he got the Enterprise, whic was about a year before the timeframe in the tv series started?
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Originally Posted by movieguru
Doesn't the description say the movie will "chronicle the early days of the Enterprise crew, during their time at Starfleet Academy"
Didn't kirk become Captain when he got the Enterprise, whic was about a year before the timeframe in the tv series started?
Didn't kirk become Captain when he got the Enterprise, whic was about a year before the timeframe in the tv series started?
I think it's far more likely that it's Kirk and friends onboard the Enterprise during Pike's command (or... April's perhaps). I could see Kirk playing a Lt., but I don't think we'll see him be a captain in this film.
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Did anyone see this on AICN?
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/33832
Sounds interesting if the go this way, maybe something like you'd find in one of the novels or comic books. Ultimately I agree it would make things more complicated and further alienate a mainstream audience. I'll keep an open mind for now, but only because I don't think the state of Star Trek can get much worse.
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/33832
AICN EXCLUSIVE! Moriarty’s Been Hearing Some Rumors About STAR TREK...
Hey, everyone. “Moriarty” here.
So let’s talk about STAR TREK.
JJ Abrams looms large on the pop culture landscape right now. Whether you love everything he’s done or not, he’s carved out a nice piece of the pie for himself, and part of that pie right now is getting to play with the biggest train sets that Paramount has. When they offered to bring him to the movie division, they did so knowing full well what they wanted from him: franchises and events. And if something can be both at once, even better.
And there are people that sneer at the sort of thing that Abrams does right now, but I’ve been pretty vocal about this for a while... I’m fascinated. There are things he’s been associated with that I’ve hated (REGARDING HENRY, for example), that I’ve been indifferent to (FELICITY), things I’ve loved (ALIAS, LOST). I think he obviously gets what kind of heavy lifting it takes to create a successful franchise event. And again... that sounds so calculated and clinical, but it’s not. It doesn’t have to be. You can decide you want to do a certain kind of big canvas movie, and you can do it with real passion and ambition. Even when I’ve disagreed passionately with the creative direction JJ Abrams took an existing property (his SUPERMAN draft), I’ve done so because I’m engaged by the way he makes choices. He’s not fucking around when he takes a property and rebuilds it. He’s going to make radical decisions, and they might work, or they might backfire, but they’re going to be bold choices. I think M:I:III was a warm-up. I enjoyed it, but it wasn’t really reinventing the wheel. He just made a solid M:I film, which is what he needed to do, basically.
I think he’s aiming higher with STAR TREK. And I think he’s making some of those big bold choices, and doing things that you wouldn’t think he’s doing. And I think there’s a chance STAR TREK fans are going to commit mass seppuku when they hear some of what he’s up to. Which is exactly what you’d expect when you’re making big choices.
The first question is...
No, actually; the only question is: why STAR TREK?
I’m hoping I get a chance to ask JJ exactly that. I wonder if it’s the opportunity for the exploration movies down the road. If this first one goes well, he’ll be able to make STAR TREK movies for the next ten or twelve years, easy. With his track record in TV, I’m sure Paramount would let him take it back to the small screen when the film franchise goes cold again. He could be doing this for the rest of his life in one way or another.
Or maybe it’s just a one-off. He’ll make a few of these and then hand it off to someone else. I don’t know. I don’t know how much he wants to do or how little.
Certainly, STAR TREK is about as stark a set of archetypes as you could ask for when doing a remake. It all depends on hiring the right young Kirk, young Spock, and young McCoy.
Those are your big three. You need that dynamic to be perfect so everything else falls into place. Most of the big drama happens in the friction between those three personalities. So obviously the first film is going to find a way to put those three people together. Right?
Sort of. Possibly.
Okay, first thing that surprised me: I think Leonard Nimoy is sort of the star of the movie. I think a lot of this movie is about Spock. Nimoy-aged Spock, mind you.
How?
Okay... you know the scene in BACK TO THE FUTURE 2? Where Doc Brown explains alternate timelines? Well, this is sort of... ummm... TREK TO THE FUTURE, I guess you would call it...
Picture an incident that throws a group of Romulans back in time. Picture that group of Romulans figuring out where they are in the timeline, then deciding to take advantage of the accident to kill someone’s father, to erase them from the timeline before they exist, thereby changing all of the TREK universe as a result. Who would you erase? Whose erasure would leave the biggest hole in the TREK universe is the question you should be asking.
Who else, of course, but James T. Kirk?
If Spock were in a position to change that incident back, and then in a position to guard that timeline and make sure things happen the way they’re supposed to, it creates...
... well, what does it create? Because evidently the plan is to use this second timeline as a way of rebooting without erasing or ignoring canon. These new voyages of the ENTERPRISE, they’re taking place in whatever timeline starts with this story. Maybe this timeline features dramatic differences. Like... say... if Vulcan were to be blown up. If the Vulcans in the series were suddenly the last of their kind, alone in the universe, it would change who they are and maybe even redefine their strict rejection of emotion in favor of logic.
You can introduce these Universe2 versions of classic TREK events and characters, and you can play with the audience’s expectation. Things have changed. Some things play out the way you expect… some don’t. It’s basically the same solution Marvel Comics has in terms of publishing, the way they use their ULTIMATES line to reboot continuity.
As a friend said when I was talking to him about this tonight, “Wait... so you’re saying they’re not just doing a square one reboot that would simplify everything, but that they’re actually making it... more complicated?”
It would appear so. Not that I think TREK fans mind complicated. It’s certainly not the safest choice if this is, in fact, the direction he goes with the film.
I’m not telling you that anything I said above is 100% set in stone. I don’t think Abrams is far enough along for that to be the case yet. But they are considering some really crazy reinventions, on par with some of the choices Abrams was making on SUPERMAN.
Who was the original captain of the ENTERPRISE?
I know the answer to that question in the canon STAR TREK universe right now... but will it be the same in the Abrams TREK universe?
Can you fundamentally alter one or more of the characters in that main trio, and still expect the same chemistry when you put the three characters together?
That’s the real question Abrams is going to have to face when he reveals his TREK next Christmas. I think you’d have to be crazy to bet against him, and I’m intrigued by some of these decisions, but I’m also willing to bet that even details as vague as the ones I’ve reported here today will cause a fair bit of debate. Abrams certainly doesn’t take low-profile gigs, and I guess that’s one of the reasons he’s gotten so good at trying to engage the audience early or in unconventional media ways. I’ll be curious to see how he gets the public ready for his version of TREK. What the images are we see first. How he sets the visual tone for the world. I hope it’s very classic TREK. I hope that’s something they embrace. The greatest visual representation of that ‘60s version of the universe, all Roddenberry optimistic with big giant philosophical ambition. Pop that aims a little higher. The Abrams sweet spot.
I’m sure we’ll have more on this as it develops.
Let the talkbacks begin!
Hey, everyone. “Moriarty” here.
So let’s talk about STAR TREK.
JJ Abrams looms large on the pop culture landscape right now. Whether you love everything he’s done or not, he’s carved out a nice piece of the pie for himself, and part of that pie right now is getting to play with the biggest train sets that Paramount has. When they offered to bring him to the movie division, they did so knowing full well what they wanted from him: franchises and events. And if something can be both at once, even better.
And there are people that sneer at the sort of thing that Abrams does right now, but I’ve been pretty vocal about this for a while... I’m fascinated. There are things he’s been associated with that I’ve hated (REGARDING HENRY, for example), that I’ve been indifferent to (FELICITY), things I’ve loved (ALIAS, LOST). I think he obviously gets what kind of heavy lifting it takes to create a successful franchise event. And again... that sounds so calculated and clinical, but it’s not. It doesn’t have to be. You can decide you want to do a certain kind of big canvas movie, and you can do it with real passion and ambition. Even when I’ve disagreed passionately with the creative direction JJ Abrams took an existing property (his SUPERMAN draft), I’ve done so because I’m engaged by the way he makes choices. He’s not fucking around when he takes a property and rebuilds it. He’s going to make radical decisions, and they might work, or they might backfire, but they’re going to be bold choices. I think M:I:III was a warm-up. I enjoyed it, but it wasn’t really reinventing the wheel. He just made a solid M:I film, which is what he needed to do, basically.
I think he’s aiming higher with STAR TREK. And I think he’s making some of those big bold choices, and doing things that you wouldn’t think he’s doing. And I think there’s a chance STAR TREK fans are going to commit mass seppuku when they hear some of what he’s up to. Which is exactly what you’d expect when you’re making big choices.
The first question is...
No, actually; the only question is: why STAR TREK?
I’m hoping I get a chance to ask JJ exactly that. I wonder if it’s the opportunity for the exploration movies down the road. If this first one goes well, he’ll be able to make STAR TREK movies for the next ten or twelve years, easy. With his track record in TV, I’m sure Paramount would let him take it back to the small screen when the film franchise goes cold again. He could be doing this for the rest of his life in one way or another.
Or maybe it’s just a one-off. He’ll make a few of these and then hand it off to someone else. I don’t know. I don’t know how much he wants to do or how little.
Certainly, STAR TREK is about as stark a set of archetypes as you could ask for when doing a remake. It all depends on hiring the right young Kirk, young Spock, and young McCoy.
Those are your big three. You need that dynamic to be perfect so everything else falls into place. Most of the big drama happens in the friction between those three personalities. So obviously the first film is going to find a way to put those three people together. Right?
Sort of. Possibly.
Okay, first thing that surprised me: I think Leonard Nimoy is sort of the star of the movie. I think a lot of this movie is about Spock. Nimoy-aged Spock, mind you.
How?
Okay... you know the scene in BACK TO THE FUTURE 2? Where Doc Brown explains alternate timelines? Well, this is sort of... ummm... TREK TO THE FUTURE, I guess you would call it...
Picture an incident that throws a group of Romulans back in time. Picture that group of Romulans figuring out where they are in the timeline, then deciding to take advantage of the accident to kill someone’s father, to erase them from the timeline before they exist, thereby changing all of the TREK universe as a result. Who would you erase? Whose erasure would leave the biggest hole in the TREK universe is the question you should be asking.
Who else, of course, but James T. Kirk?
If Spock were in a position to change that incident back, and then in a position to guard that timeline and make sure things happen the way they’re supposed to, it creates...
... well, what does it create? Because evidently the plan is to use this second timeline as a way of rebooting without erasing or ignoring canon. These new voyages of the ENTERPRISE, they’re taking place in whatever timeline starts with this story. Maybe this timeline features dramatic differences. Like... say... if Vulcan were to be blown up. If the Vulcans in the series were suddenly the last of their kind, alone in the universe, it would change who they are and maybe even redefine their strict rejection of emotion in favor of logic.
You can introduce these Universe2 versions of classic TREK events and characters, and you can play with the audience’s expectation. Things have changed. Some things play out the way you expect… some don’t. It’s basically the same solution Marvel Comics has in terms of publishing, the way they use their ULTIMATES line to reboot continuity.
As a friend said when I was talking to him about this tonight, “Wait... so you’re saying they’re not just doing a square one reboot that would simplify everything, but that they’re actually making it... more complicated?”
It would appear so. Not that I think TREK fans mind complicated. It’s certainly not the safest choice if this is, in fact, the direction he goes with the film.
I’m not telling you that anything I said above is 100% set in stone. I don’t think Abrams is far enough along for that to be the case yet. But they are considering some really crazy reinventions, on par with some of the choices Abrams was making on SUPERMAN.
Who was the original captain of the ENTERPRISE?
I know the answer to that question in the canon STAR TREK universe right now... but will it be the same in the Abrams TREK universe?
Can you fundamentally alter one or more of the characters in that main trio, and still expect the same chemistry when you put the three characters together?
That’s the real question Abrams is going to have to face when he reveals his TREK next Christmas. I think you’d have to be crazy to bet against him, and I’m intrigued by some of these decisions, but I’m also willing to bet that even details as vague as the ones I’ve reported here today will cause a fair bit of debate. Abrams certainly doesn’t take low-profile gigs, and I guess that’s one of the reasons he’s gotten so good at trying to engage the audience early or in unconventional media ways. I’ll be curious to see how he gets the public ready for his version of TREK. What the images are we see first. How he sets the visual tone for the world. I hope it’s very classic TREK. I hope that’s something they embrace. The greatest visual representation of that ‘60s version of the universe, all Roddenberry optimistic with big giant philosophical ambition. Pop that aims a little higher. The Abrams sweet spot.
I’m sure we’ll have more on this as it develops.
Let the talkbacks begin!
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Saldana on 'Trek' with Abrams, Par
By Borys Kit
Sept 18, 2007
J.J. Abrams is slowly bringing his crew together for Paramount Pictures' 11th film in the "Star Trek" movie series. Zoe Saldana is in final negotiations to play Uhura, who is the chief communications officer on the USS Enterprise.
![](http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/paramount_pictures/mission__impossible_iii/zoe_saldana/mipre3.jpg)
Plot details are begin kept under wraps, but it is understood that the movie chronicles the early days of the Enterprise crew. Saldana will join Anton Yelchin as a young Chekov, the Russian-born navigator, as well as Zachary Quinto as a young Spock. Leonard Nimoy, who originated the role of Spock, is on board as well.
On the original TV series and in the movies, Uhura was played by Nichelle Nichols.
Abrams is directing and producing the tentpole through his Paramount-based Bad Robot shingle. Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci penned the screenplay and will executive produce along with Bryan Burk and Damon Lindelof. The film is scheduled to bow on Christmas Day 2008.
Saldana is one of the stars of James Cameron's sci-fi epic "Avatar," which is currently filming. She will next be seen in "Vantage Point" with Matthew Fox, Dennis Quaid and Forest Whitaker.
She is repped by Gersh and Brillstein Entertainment Partners.
By Borys Kit
Sept 18, 2007
J.J. Abrams is slowly bringing his crew together for Paramount Pictures' 11th film in the "Star Trek" movie series. Zoe Saldana is in final negotiations to play Uhura, who is the chief communications officer on the USS Enterprise.
![](http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/paramount_pictures/mission__impossible_iii/zoe_saldana/mipre3.jpg)
Plot details are begin kept under wraps, but it is understood that the movie chronicles the early days of the Enterprise crew. Saldana will join Anton Yelchin as a young Chekov, the Russian-born navigator, as well as Zachary Quinto as a young Spock. Leonard Nimoy, who originated the role of Spock, is on board as well.
On the original TV series and in the movies, Uhura was played by Nichelle Nichols.
Abrams is directing and producing the tentpole through his Paramount-based Bad Robot shingle. Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci penned the screenplay and will executive produce along with Bryan Burk and Damon Lindelof. The film is scheduled to bow on Christmas Day 2008.
Saldana is one of the stars of James Cameron's sci-fi epic "Avatar," which is currently filming. She will next be seen in "Vantage Point" with Matthew Fox, Dennis Quaid and Forest Whitaker.
She is repped by Gersh and Brillstein Entertainment Partners.
Last edited by devilshalo; 09-18-07 at 12:05 AM.
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Originally Posted by MBoyd
Did anyone see this on AICN?
#219
Originally Posted by Chew
While I don't put much stock in AICN either, what they're saying could easily mean we'd finally find out what happened to Spock after "Unification": maybe the movie opens on Romulus several years after Nemesis? Continue the existing continuity, yet start anew at the same time.
How will shatner fit into this? He's much older than when he was in Generations.
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Originally Posted by movieguru
How will shatner fit into this? He's much older than when he was in Generations.
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Though I would love to see Abrams bring him back to life just by having him show up. Any references to him dying would be addressed with a simple, "yeah, that was a bitch, wasn't it?"
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Originally Posted by milo bloom
Plus, he's dead ![Smilie](/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Though I would love to see Abrams bring him back to life just by having him show up. Any references to him dying would be addressed with a simple, "yeah, that was a bitch, wasn't it?"
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Though I would love to see Abrams bring him back to life just by having him show up. Any references to him dying would be addressed with a simple, "yeah, that was a bitch, wasn't it?"
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Originally Posted by marka351
Besides being dead has never stopped people from reappearing in science fiction before.
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So, the same crew stayed together for what, 20 years? Ridiculous. Why can't the early Kirk have a different crew. I don't need to see Chekov as a kid. I like to think he joined the Enterprise shortly before the first series started, and that's why he seemed so green.
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Way too much bitching here. It's Star Trek - be like me, just be happy that someone is trying to breathe new life into it. I'm skeptical as well, but we should all rejoice that SOMEONE ELSE is producing this and not the same old crew.
I for one will be satisfied if as they say that this is an alternate dimension version of all of the characters, while still being 'close'. Who cares if one person is older or younger and who knows if they 'will' be together for 20 years, remember, this is an alternate universe supposedly.
New Trek and let it be at that. Leave the fan boy bitching at home until you have something to bitch about.
I for one will be satisfied if as they say that this is an alternate dimension version of all of the characters, while still being 'close'. Who cares if one person is older or younger and who knows if they 'will' be together for 20 years, remember, this is an alternate universe supposedly.
New Trek and let it be at that. Leave the fan boy bitching at home until you have something to bitch about.