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Old 02-28-07, 05:15 PM
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ewww....I'm sorry but the thought of anyone else playing those three is still ridiculous. It becomes even more so when you throw those names out. No, it will have to be no name actors to play them.

Besides I don't know if they would have the budget to hire all of them.
It won't cost much to get either Brody or Sinese. Damon is expensive, but he can't be more than Shatner and Nimoy combined (who got $10 million each for the last couple of Star Trek movies they were in).

Besides, as long as Shatner and Nimoy have approval/veto over who portrays those characters (and they both do), I have no problem with who they'll cast.
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Old 02-28-07, 11:20 PM
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It just doesnt sound interesting to me. They keep going back in time when they should be forging new territory in the future.
I thought Abrams was smarter than this. He usually has a good idea of what fans want but I don't think he doers here.

If the last few Trek films didn't do well and they had established favorites from the series in them do they really think people are going to want to see this?
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If the last few Trek films didn't do well and they had established favorites from the series in them do they really think people are going to want to see this?

I read an explanation on another board that really nailed this. The difference between the TOS movies and the TNG movies was that TOS had only 79 live action and 22 animated episodes, and had been off the air for several years, plus there just wasn't a whole lot out there for scifi fans to fall back on. The first TNG movie came out the same year TNG ended (after a seven year run on TV), and there was a lot more scifi/genre type stuff on TV (plus DS9, and soon Voyager and Enterprise on TV). It's partially the fatigue/saturation argument that Berman and Braga used to put forth, though a lot of it is still fatigue on the part of the producers and writers in my opinion.

This is going back to the classic crew, the ones even non-Trekkies are aware of, and it's fresh blood behind the scenes.

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It just doesnt sound interesting to me. They keep going back in time when they should be forging new territory in the future.
As soon as Enterprise was announced, fans immediately began speculating about all the interesting stuff alluded to in "modern" Trek, like the Romulan wars, birth of the Federation, all that. Since B&B were more interested in their temporal cold war nonsense, is it any wonder they lost fans?

This is something folks actually want to see, I think it's got a good chance of being something really fun and really good.
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I'm interested in seeing the what JJ Abrams can do with this, but I'm not excited about all the names that are being thrown out.
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I think you really have to be careful going forward with Trek. They seem to be hung up on the Temporal Cold War/Time Travel, and I am just not that interested in hearing about it.

I think there's lots of potential material in the TNG/DS9 era, and I'd be more apt to watch a movie (or heck, even a show) based in that time period... with some good writers.
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Old 07-11-07, 01:21 PM
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Shatner on Star Trek XI: 'He's In It. I'm Not In It'

http://www.trektoday.com/news/110707_02.shtml
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Old 07-11-07, 01:23 PM
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Shatner's too busy filming "All Bran" commercials anyway.
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Old 07-11-07, 01:48 PM
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Crap, I was hoping for a "Denny Crane!".
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Maybe Donny Crane will show up, wait no, Star Trek with Prinze Jr sonds horride.
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Originally Posted by lordwow
I think there's lots of potential material in the TNG/DS9 era, and I'd be more apt to watch a movie (or heck, even a show) based in that time period... with some good writers.
Eh, that's what all the original Trekkies said for years, and then they all wet themselves over TNG. It's just about what "your" Trek is.

That 20 year span in the 24th Century is pretty much played-out. I'd like to see another jump forward.
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Old 07-11-07, 05:40 PM
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Eh, that's what all the original Trekkies said for years, and then they all wet themselves over TNG. It's just about what "your" Trek is.

That 20 year span in the 24th Century is pretty much played-out. I'd like to see another jump forward.
I agree, that's "my era" of Trek. I don't think the 24th century is played out, but I do think the storylines crapped out through Voyager. I think we can all agree that DS9 was clearly different than the other series, and I think Voyager was trying really hard to be TNG part II, but unfortunately, the writers ignored what was great about TNG: storytelling about humanity. I've been watching some Voyager reruns, and everything seems to be about an alien of the week or a scientific-type thing. While those were present in TNG, they weren't the focus, but rather the impetus for telling a story about humanity.

All of the TNG movies tried to do this, but it really had some awful stories. Nemesis and Insurrection both had great concepts in theory, but the stories themselves sucked.

In other words, I don't think it matters what time period it takes place in, as long as they go back to the TNG (or DS9) style of storytelling.

My biggest problem with a jump forward is that time travel crap I could deal without. I wouldn't mind a 30-50 year jump or something similar though.

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Originally Posted by lordwow
I agree, that's "my era" of Trek. I don't think the 24th century is played out, but I do think the storylines crapped out through Voyager. I think we can all agree that DS9 was clearly different than the other series, and I think Voyager was trying really hard to be TNG part II, but unfortunately, the writers ignored what was great about TNG: storytelling about humanity. I've been watching some Voyager reruns, and everything seems to be about an alien of the week or a scientific-type thing. While those were present in TNG, they weren't the focus, but rather the impetus for telling a story about humanity.

All of the TNG movies tried to do this, but it really had some awful stories. Nemesis and Insurrection both had great concepts in theory, but the stories themselves sucked.

In other words, I don't think it matters what time period it takes place in, as long as they go back to the TNG (or DS9) style of storytelling.

My biggest problem with a jump forward is that time travel crap I could deal without. I wouldn't mind a 30-50 year jump or something similar though.
I don't disagree that they could tell more stories in that time frame, but it would be case of "been there, done that"- the uniforms, ships, aliens, etc. Why not jump ahead a hundred (or two hundred) years and see what the Federation is up to? They could totally ignore all that time travel crap. Hell, I'd be okay with them erasing Voyager and Enterprise from the canon.
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Theres rumors that the evil guy in Heroes may play Spock.

I was listening to an interview with JMS the creator of Babylon 5 yesterday and they asked him about his connection with Enterprise at some point and he said he thought about it but the creators and writers of Star Trek had no desire to have their characters evolve or have anything Bold really happen with their stories so he turned it down.
In otherwards they played it too safe.
That's what I think they are doing with this movie. A prequel.....Playing it too safe.
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Originally Posted by Tracer Bullet
I don't disagree that they could tell more stories in that time frame, but it would be case of "been there, done that"- the uniforms, ships, aliens, etc. Why not jump ahead a hundred (or two hundred) years and see what the Federation is up to? They could totally ignore all that time travel crap. Hell, I'd be okay with them erasing Voyager and Enterprise from the canon.
Ya, I think everytime they go backwards it ends up being poor, mainly because they're trying to reinvent the technology to fit in with the other series. That may be the downfall of doing a TNG-era show now, TNG is starting to age, and "updating" the technology never seems to work right, look at Enterprise, it looks more advanced than TOS in a lot of ways.
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Originally Posted by riley_dude
Theres rumors that the evil guy in Heroes may play Spock.

I was listening to an interview with JMS the creator of Babylon 5 yesterday and they asked him about his connection with Enterprise at some point and he said he thought about it but the creators and writers of Star Trek had no desire to have their characters evolve or have anything Bold really happen with their stories so he turned it down.
In otherwards they played it too safe.
That's what I think they are doing with this movie. A prequel.....Playing it too safe.
I agree with this too, as much as I love TNG, it did play it too safe, and a lot of that was Roddenbery, who held the show back according to a lot of the producers and writers. That's why I think the quality of the shows knotched up a ton after he passed away.

Either way, I always thought there needs to be a more "Lost" like atmosphere on a show like Trek where people can die or disappear at a moment's notice (and not in a Tasha Yar sort of way).
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HOLLYWOOD - Heroes star Zachary Quinto is set to play Spock in the new Star Trek movie, according to media reports.

Quinto, who plays Sylar on the hit TV show, is reported to be in final discussions to play iconic sci-fi character Spock for the new Star Trek film.
http://www.hollywood.com/news/Heroes..._Spock/4441966


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Old 07-24-07, 01:01 PM
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Quinto is an excellent casting for Spock. Just think, a short while ago he was the gay dude on Tori Spelling's short-lived VH1 show. My how circumstances have changed for him. He'll end up being a sci-fi icon for the rest of his life.
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Quinto is an excellent casting for Spock. Just think, a short while ago he was the gay dude on Tori Spelling's short-lived VH1 show. My how circumstances have changed for him. He'll end up being a sci-fi icon for the rest of his life.
Or the guy who butchered an icon (though I think he's good casting as well).


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Now he will certainly be more popular when he makes his appearance at the FanExpo convention in Toronto in August.
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GREAT casting choice for Quinto.
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Old 07-24-07, 01:31 PM
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GREAT casting choice for Quinto.
I agree...he's a great actor and he even looks a lot like Nimoy.

As for JMS, sounds like sour grapes to me...I don't think Star Trek ever "played it safe". It had some really bold TV episodes, and as for the movies...while they weren't all great, they did have the guts to kill off three beloved characters, so you can't say they didn't take risks...
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So if this pans out, will Quinto be employing the Vulcan mind munch?
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Good first choice
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Old 07-24-07, 02:54 PM
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Or the guy who butchered an icon (though I think he's good casting as well).


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I also was including Sylar in with the "icon" category. I expect Heroes to have staying power.
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I also was including Sylar in with the "icon" category. I expect Heroes to have staying power.
I hope so, I was a bit underwhelmed by the finale, but it's a minor gripe on an otherwise fantastic season.


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