Star Trek XI in 2008 Written/Directed by JJ Abrams
08-21-06, 08:07 PM
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I thought this was kinda reveling.
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Wow, now that is how you get your most devout and most-likey-to-go-see-this-film crowd to turn on you. I think that trekkies should get KY out for this one.....
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Since J.J. Abrams was announced to write and produce the next Star Trek film, fans have been speculating who we will see as the main characters.
Rampant rumors have Kirk and Spock returning to the franchise but what has had some Trek fans up in arms is that William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy will not return to reprise the roles that made Star Trek a household name.
Abrams and company have kept a tight lip and have even gone so far as making a pact between writers and producers not to talk about the new Trek until production starts.
What is known is that we will be seeing Kirk and Spock in their early Starfleet years. The new movie will chronologically take place before The Original Series.
There are quite a bit of problems with this specific storyline since it goes against established Trek mythos from the last 40 years but that’s a whole other story.
The interesting development as of late is that the rumors regarding who will play Kirk, they have made it all the way to, well, Kirk himself.
William Shatner, in two recent interviews, mentioned hearing rumors that Matt Damon has signed on to play the role of James T. Kirk in the upcoming film. This could simply be the same rumors that have made it on to the web and every other Trek fansite.
The interesting note about his recent interview with the Toronto Star is that he mentions he would be interested in coming back for the next film.
So is there any chance of that? “Absolutely not,” is what we have been told by an unnamed studio source. “This is not just another Trek movie but instead a total reboot, we will see things that are similar to what is known in the Trek Universe but we will not be held to every aspect of the last 40 years. We are going to introduce Star Trek to a whole new generation and many more generations to come. We have total faith that J.J. and company will take Trek to a whole new level. Trek has been going downhill for the last 10 years and if we expect it to be around 20 years from now we will have to take some bold steps that might be controversial at first but we are sure to bring new fans to the dying franchise."
So when asked about the existing fans of Trek and if they would like the direction the new Trek is headed towards I was quickly told that, “Trek fans were not able to keep the last show (Enterprise) on the air and we are looking on bringing over “Alias” and “Lost” fans and if the old Trekkies like the new movie great, if not too bad. We have to boldly go were no Star Trek has gone before.”
Rampant rumors have Kirk and Spock returning to the franchise but what has had some Trek fans up in arms is that William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy will not return to reprise the roles that made Star Trek a household name.
Abrams and company have kept a tight lip and have even gone so far as making a pact between writers and producers not to talk about the new Trek until production starts.
What is known is that we will be seeing Kirk and Spock in their early Starfleet years. The new movie will chronologically take place before The Original Series.
There are quite a bit of problems with this specific storyline since it goes against established Trek mythos from the last 40 years but that’s a whole other story.
The interesting development as of late is that the rumors regarding who will play Kirk, they have made it all the way to, well, Kirk himself.
William Shatner, in two recent interviews, mentioned hearing rumors that Matt Damon has signed on to play the role of James T. Kirk in the upcoming film. This could simply be the same rumors that have made it on to the web and every other Trek fansite.
The interesting note about his recent interview with the Toronto Star is that he mentions he would be interested in coming back for the next film.
So is there any chance of that? “Absolutely not,” is what we have been told by an unnamed studio source. “This is not just another Trek movie but instead a total reboot, we will see things that are similar to what is known in the Trek Universe but we will not be held to every aspect of the last 40 years. We are going to introduce Star Trek to a whole new generation and many more generations to come. We have total faith that J.J. and company will take Trek to a whole new level. Trek has been going downhill for the last 10 years and if we expect it to be around 20 years from now we will have to take some bold steps that might be controversial at first but we are sure to bring new fans to the dying franchise."
So when asked about the existing fans of Trek and if they would like the direction the new Trek is headed towards I was quickly told that, “Trek fans were not able to keep the last show (Enterprise) on the air and we are looking on bringing over “Alias” and “Lost” fans and if the old Trekkies like the new movie great, if not too bad. We have to boldly go were no Star Trek has gone before.”
08-21-06, 09:02 PM
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i'll be waiting for this one
never watched alias or lost, but this may be a welcome change for star trek from changing the laws of physics with technobabble every episode. i think they wanted something new for Enterprise, but for some reason they got B&B involved and ruined the whole thing
I predict when this comes out all the fanboys will be screaming how this goes against their precious canon
never watched alias or lost, but this may be a welcome change for star trek from changing the laws of physics with technobabble every episode. i think they wanted something new for Enterprise, but for some reason they got B&B involved and ruined the whole thing
I predict when this comes out all the fanboys will be screaming how this goes against their precious canon
08-21-06, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by gijon213
Wow, now that is how you get your most devout and most-likey-to-go-see-this-film crowd to turn on you. I think that trekkies should get KY out for this one.....
08-21-06, 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Suprmallet
I think there's a difference between saying they're going to go in a different direction and saying they're actively going for fans of Lost and Alias.
08-22-06, 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by LordofWar
If the movie is about kirk and spock when they are youger how will shatner and nemoy helo in the movie anyway? They are like 70.
08-22-06, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Molotov
Eh, I'm a Star Trek fan, but I wouldn't mind seeing them take this movie in a different direction. It's not going to have real Kirk or real Spock or anyone else, so I think really the biggest mistake they could make is to try to make this same old Star Trek with different people. Let's see what they can do with this.
08-22-06, 01:10 PM
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Maybe the plot can revolve around Kirk (who has been brought back out of the Nexus shortly after being sucked in in Generations, but leaving his "soul" there to battle with Picard in the future) dying from a rare disease that leaves him in a coma. His good pal, Spock would perform a mind meld with him, realizing that their common past contains the key to saving Kirk's life. This 'key' would revolve around some adventure the two had when they first met at Starfleet. They can then use Shatner and Nimoy to bookend the movie. The middle contains the meeting of the younger versions and the solution to Kirk's disease.
08-22-06, 01:44 PM
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Or maybe Kirk is a disturbed youth who works as a janitor at the school but is actually a young genius who solves all of the big math equations after class, and Spock is his friend from a poor neighborhood who keeps hoping that one day Kirk won't be there when he comes to pick him up.
08-22-06, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Zien
Or maybe Kirk is a disturbed youth who works as a janitor at the school but is actually a young genius who solves all of the big math equations after class, and Spock is his friend from a poor neighborhood who keeps hoping that one day Kirk won't be there when he comes to pick him up.
08-22-06, 03:39 PM
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Lionface! Lemonface!
Seriously, I think that perhaps the comments are being a bit overblown. Way I'm reading it is "the crew and writers of "Enterprise" and "Nemesis" lost the core audience and that wasn't enough to keep it on the air. We're hoping to draw in those fans who left ST for other franchises," and it is true.
Seriously, I think that perhaps the comments are being a bit overblown. Way I'm reading it is "the crew and writers of "Enterprise" and "Nemesis" lost the core audience and that wasn't enough to keep it on the air. We're hoping to draw in those fans who left ST for other franchises," and it is true.
08-22-06, 03:50 PM
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I dunno. There aren't too many ways to intrepret "if the old Trekkies like the new movie great, if not too bad," and none of them speak very highly of the director's opinion of "old trekkies."
08-23-06, 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by gijon213
So am I, and I am fine with a different direction. I am not fine with the director, the person who is going to shape a portion of Star Trek lore in my mind, basically saying, "Fuck you Star Trek fans, you don't like what I made? Well, I didn't make it for you anyway, I made it so another target audience with a big piece of the money pie in their pockets would go see it." He mentioned the fact that 'we' (meaning Trekkies) could not keep Enterprise on TV. IMHO, this is because that "new direction" they took with that show lead straight to crapville with a minor detour through badwritingburg. Don't get me wrong, I really did give it a chance, as I did with DS9 and Voyager. But to blame it on the fans for not liking the Star Trek Empire enough to keep a skewed version of it on TV is a scapegoat.
I agree. Those comments do not bode well at all for this project. Kind of sets the whole tone for the production. This isn't like Batman or Superman where the setting and characters have existed in many different stories and types of media and played by different people. The actors make the characters who they are. This is a reboot but doesn't seem to be one in a good direction. Seems to be more like making Star Trek 'hip' for the upcoming crowd. Maybe they can turn the deflector dish into a skateboarding ramp and have Spock speak in emo.
08-23-06, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by gijon213
So am I, and I am fine with a different direction. I am not fine with the director, the person who is going to shape a portion of Star Trek lore in my mind, basically saying, "Fuck you Star Trek fans, you don't like what I made?
08-23-06, 10:11 AM
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I hope this movie makes only $10 million on opening weekend. What a travesty. Rather than try to make a great Star Trek movie, the studio wants to give the fanbase a big middle finger and make a movie for the pure motivation of greed.
08-23-06, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by rennervision
I hope this movie makes only $10 million on opening weekend. What a travesty. Rather than try to make a great Star Trek movie, the studio wants to give the fanbase a big middle finger and make a movie for the pure motivation of greed.
08-23-06, 02:47 PM
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He's a huge Star Trek fan? Didn't he say he hasn't even seen all the episodes of TOS? I'm a casual Star Trek fan and I've seen all the TOS episodes, so I don't see how he can get away with calling himself a huge fan without having seen them all. But maybe that's just me.
08-23-06, 03:47 PM
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Perhaps JJ Abrams is a huge Next Generation fan? I thought he didn't see the TOS episodes as well.
Before TOS? Spock was already on the Enterprise with Captain Pike, while James Kirk was busy at the Academy getting into fights with Flannigan, and trying to beat the Kobayashi Maru.
Well I say good luck, I didn't see the last Star Trek movie until it came to DVD, because it didn't look good, and Enterprise, I gave it a 1 season chance. A whole new direction is fine, see even James Bond is doing it.
Before TOS? Spock was already on the Enterprise with Captain Pike, while James Kirk was busy at the Academy getting into fights with Flannigan, and trying to beat the Kobayashi Maru.
Well I say good luck, I didn't see the last Star Trek movie until it came to DVD, because it didn't look good, and Enterprise, I gave it a 1 season chance. A whole new direction is fine, see even James Bond is doing it.
02-28-07, 12:25 PM
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12/25/2008 Theatrical Release Date Announced
http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/02/2...z/index.html#0
http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/02/2...z/index.html#0
02-28-07, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by tronmaster
Well I say good luck, I didn't see the last Star Trek movie until it came to DVD, because it didn't look good, and Enterprise, I gave it a 1 season chance. A whole new direction is fine, see even James Bond is doing it.
02-28-07, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Suprmallet
The difference is that James Bond, Batman, etc. are actually rebooting the entire series. No references to the other movies. This is a straight-up prequel. However, I've been hearing some casting rumors that actually have me excited, including Matt Damon as Kirk, Adrien Brody as Spock, and Gary Sinise as McCoy.
ewww....I'm sorry but the thought of anyone else playing those three is still ridiculous. It becomes even more so when you throw those names out. No, it will have to be no name actors to play them.
Besides I don't know if they would have the budget to hire all of them.