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Old 03-06-15, 06:57 AM
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (2015, D: Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fis

Alleged rundown of the second trailer, which could be attached to Age of Ultron:

http://www.starwars7news.com/2015/03...trailer-2.html

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Like the first teaser it opens with a shot of the desert planet. Although it’s not dunes. It’s a destroyed AT-AT on its side.

Voice over (sounds like Lupita Nyong’o): “I shall show you the story…”

Forest location with a very large structure (like a castle or something) with an opening in the base of a large tree. I believe this is the Puzzlewood location.

VO continues “of who you seek…”

A large city in a tropical location. Looks like it’s on the water.

VO continues “the one who taught me…”

Cloaked figure (maybe Luke?) standing at the top of stone steps on a high green hill with mountain stones behind him. This is definitely Skellig Michael.

VO continues “I know why the weapon came to you.”

John Boyega (Finn), Daisy Ridley (Rey), and a small blue alien with a CG face in a dark (underground?) cave. Finn takes a lightsaber, and turns it on revealing a green blade. Rey is in the background and looks disturbed.

Things pick up from here. Lots of quick shots.

Han Solo wearing a brown duster and looking past the camera.

A black TIE Fighter attacking the forest location we saw earlier.

Kylo Ren in a POV shot approaching someone on the ground. His mask is dark with silver accents. The cross-guard saber is ignited.

People running in the city seen earlier in the trailer.

R2-D2 making a forlorn beep.

C-3PO and Princess Leia in what looks like a base command center.

New Voice Over (sounds like Andy Serkis from the first trailer) “Don’t get too sentimental”.

As that VO is playing we see Han looking at Leia and then walking away from her towards the Falcon with Chewie.

The snowy forest from the first trailer. Slow shot of Finn holding the saber, looks like he’s protecting Rey from someone as we hear Han say “You can do this kid, I believe in you.”

Final shot of the trailer is a close-up of a hooded head looking up to reveal Luke.
Curious that almost every detail mentioned here was included in the spoiler reports MSW have posted in the last couple of weeks. Makes me suspect someone might have made up this trailer description after reading them. Guess we'll find out soon enough.
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^^ gave me goosebumps... can't wait to see this film as it is.
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If that trailer description is true it sounds pretty damn awesome. Very excited to see it debut.
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^ MakingStarWars says the description is fake (posted on TheForce.net boards). Oh, well... move along.
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Well that's a letdown. It sounded like it could be pretty legitimate and like it would have been amazing.
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Originally Posted by joe_b
^ MakingStarWars says the description is fake (posted on TheForce.net boards). Oh, well... move along.
I'm hoping that means most of the rumors that made their way into the above description are fake as well.
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Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt
I'm hoping that means most of the rumors that made their way into the above description are fake as well.
But most rumors sound awesome
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Originally Posted by Rob V
But most rumors sound awesome
Well, I'm not very excited about the idea that Hamill is only in a few minutes of the movie and another OT cast member may only be in THIS movie, if you know what I mean. Both aren't bad ideas dramatically, but both kind of ruin the reason a lot of us are excited about the film in the first place (to see the OT cast in action TOGETHER one last time).
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (2015, D: Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fis

Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt
Well, I'm not very excited about the idea that Hamill is only in a few minutes of the movie and another OT cast member may only be in THIS movie, if you know what I mean. Both aren't bad ideas dramatically, but both kind of ruin the reason a lot of us are excited about the film in the first place (to see the OT cast in action TOGETHER one last time).
On the other hand, the news excites those who want something new and exciting.
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Originally Posted by Abob Teff
On the other hand, the news excites those who want something new and exciting.
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Originally Posted by Abob Teff
On the other hand, the news excites those who want something new and exciting.
The why bring back the OT cast at all? The idea that you can't have the OT actors working together and still make the movie fresh and exciting is ridiculous.
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No, but the original characters could easily be used as a storytelling crutch instead of exploring new characters and themes.
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Also bear in mind that we do need more diversity out of what seems like a normally white male dominated cast.

Having the OT cast in but also have new demographical additions is good too. One thing I loved about the teaser is that it showed only some of the new cast additions.
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Also bear in mind that we do need more diversity out of what seems like a normally white male dominated cast.
Really? Other than the 1st movie, I'd say it's a pretty diverse series.
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Really? Other than the 1st movie, I'd say it's a pretty diverse series.
Other than Billy D. (put in to satisfy complaints about the first movie being whiter than a Klan rally) and Samuel L. (put in because he was a huge star who begged to be in the films), the only people of color present are spear-carriers.

Unless you want to count Jar-Jar as black and the Trade Federation as Asians, which I'll admit is a perfectly reasonable reading of Lucas's oh-so enlightened view of the world.
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Is that right about Billy D? It wasn't cuz he was badass?
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Originally Posted by DaveyJoe
No, but the original characters could easily be used as a storytelling crutch instead of exploring new characters and themes.
At the same time though a lot of the hype for this film and luring back in old fans is due to the prospect of seeing the original cast together again one final time. I've never expected them to have big roles other than in this film and thought they'd basically be used as a way to introduce new characters while satisfying Original Trilogy fans and with exception to Luke the originals would have smaller parts in the following sequels. I think if the original cast is relegated to little more than cameos a bunch of fans are going to be disappointed and I can't say I'd blame them.
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Well based on the early rumors (I stopped reading the latest round, though I generally know what they were) - we have a large role for Solo, supporting scenes cutting back to Leia.. and the hope of Luke playing a larger role in 8-9. (and in all likelihood, being a force ghost after that) Definitely more than cameos.
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Originally Posted by Mike86
At the same time though a lot of the hype for this film and luring back in old fans is due to the prospect of seeing the original cast together again one final time. I've never expected them to have big roles other than in this film and thought they'd basically be used as a way to introduce new characters while satisfying Original Trilogy fans and with exception to Luke the originals would have smaller parts in the following sequels. I think if the original cast is relegated to little more than cameos a bunch of fans are going to be disappointed and I can't say I'd blame them.
There's probably a legion of fans that want to recapture the magical feeling they had growing up and watching these movies for the first time. I'm not one of them, I just want to see the universe expand with a good story.
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I just want good movies. I'm not even a SW fan. I am a fan of the universe and the potential for it but the franchise has shown very little quality in its exposure to me from various formats. I just give a damn for SW, ESB, and (somewhat enjoy) RoTJ. Out of that it's probably a handful of video games over the span of 20 years. I just want good movies set in this world and hold no personal attachment to the franchise.
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I grew up with the OT so I have a personal attachment and love all three equelly, even Return Of The Jedi. I fully expect the movie to be awful but I am hoping for Star Trek and Star Trek Into Darkness awful and not Star Wars Prequels awful.
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Originally Posted by DaveyJoe
There's probably a legion of fans that want to recapture the magical feeling they had growing up and watching these movies for the first time. I'm not one of them, I just want to see the universe expand with a good story.
Just pointing out though that a pretty big selling point of this film has been that the original cast will be in it. For me I want to see the universe expanded too but I want this film to deliver on what we were led to believe and give us one last good story for the original cast and move forward from there. Nostalgia isn't so much of a factor for me as I had given up on the franchise long ago after Lucas bastardized it, but now I'm hopeful for what we might get with him out of the picture.
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Originally Posted by Mike86
Just pointing out though that a pretty big selling point of this film has been that the original cast will be in it. For me I want to see the universe expanded too but I want this film to deliver on what we were led to believe and give us one last good story for the original cast and move forward from there. Nostalgia isn't so much of a factor for me as I had given up on the franchise long ago after Lucas bastardized it, but now I'm hopeful for what we might get with him out of the picture.
If it was such a big selling point, why did the first official teaser not feature any of the original cast members? I'm not saying it won't build some hype for long-time fans, but it's certainly not essential. This is Star Wars, it doesn't need a hook. Just because the last three movies sucked doesn't mean that the new movie wouldn't make bank. People lined up for three bad movies in a row. The series gets a lot of hate on the internet, but it's still a major cash cow. There is a new audience of kids who like the recent movies just as much as the old ones. Even if a new Star Wars movie didn't bring back the old cast, with decent marketing and good word of mouth, it would still make enough money to ensure future installments.
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I think they've been holding off on the reveals in general though. The only character we got a good look at is Boyega, and even him we only saw out of context and don't know much about his character. We didn't see many other characters at all in the trailer really. It seems like you're a bit too willing to just write off the significance of the original cast being in this film. I think it's pretty huge as most people never expected it to happen after such a long time.
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Originally Posted by Mike86
I think they've been holding off on the reveals in general though. We didn't see many characters at all in the trailer really. It seems like you're a bit too willing to just write off the significance of the original cast being in this film. I think it's pretty huge as most people never expected it to happen after such a long time.
I think it's huge for a certain portion of the audience, but like I said there's an entire new audience of kids who love the prequels. I think you're confusing the massive internet hate for the actual mentality of the general audience. The older fans of the series were disappointed by the prequels, but Disney doesn't need to bend over backwards to win back their trust. With or without the returning cast, people will line up for a new Star Wars flick. The fact that the teaser didn't focus on the old members gave me hope that the producers might not be using them as a crutch.


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