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Old 05-30-15, 09:59 PM
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens (12/18/2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fi

Originally Posted by Ranger
New rumor that Josh Trank's spin off movie would have been Shadows of the Empire sequel. Seems odd since in the book the villian was killed and it led right up to ROTJ? Maybe the SotE video games?
As cool as that would be I don't see how it would work. There'd be no way around recasting and I'm not sure how well that would fly. I think if they ever choose to adapt that story the best option would be to make it an animated series or film. It could work in the same way that The Clone Wars did with bridging the gap between Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith.

Originally Posted by islandclaws
A loose figure from Hong Kong? It might as well say "bootleg" in the listing.
I was thinking exactly the same thing. A YouTube figure reviewer I watch had someone send him a custom Trooper from The Black Series line that had packaging and everything meant to look like one of the Episode VII Troopers. There are a lot of talented customizers out there for figures and its highly doubtful that Disney/Hasbro let one slip out onto the market early. Especially considering that there hasn't even been any official figure reveals from The Force Awakens yet.

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Old 05-30-15, 10:55 PM
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens (12/18/2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fi

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A loose figure from Hong Kong? It might as well say "bootleg" in the listing.
Not necessarily, considering Hasbro manufactures from there.
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens (12/18/2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fi

Well they are supposedly being released on Sept 4 so about 3 months away. It takes weeks for them to ship the items across the ocean and then more weeks to get them distributed across the country to be ready on Sept 4. So they will have to sent the items out on the ship by at least mid July. Then you have to take into account the time the factory is actually making these. Figure might be a sample or a factory worker just stole one off the line. Even if they aren't officially revealed, I don't have trouble thinking that tons of Ep 7 items are already produced and sitting in a Asian factory/warehouse getting ready to be shipped.
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens (12/18/2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fi

That seller Viperskingdom has been doing this for years. He always has new figures months before they hit the States. I have no doubt that figure is the real deal.
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens (12/18/2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fi

Originally Posted by RichC2
I keep hearing it's pretty decent. I enjoyed Rise but could not get into Dawn, so I haven't actually made it past the 15 minute mark or so.
Dawn accomplishes in 2 1/2 hours what The Warriors did in the 1st 10 minutes.

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Re: Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens (12/18/2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fi

A poster on Reddit claims to have seen the first ten minutes of the movie. Take it with a grain of salt, but it's interesting to read nonetheless.

http://np.reddit.com/user/Thbkzxbfxb...ter=t1_crq2y6z

So the crawl was really wide, like the OT and sort of hard to read. The logo was the same. THERE WAS NO "EPISODE VII" which I thought was cool and again a hark back to the OT.
The no "EPISODE VII" thing makes me suspect everything that follows is bogus. It's already been confirmed it WILL be on the film itself. I don't see why they'd leave it off if the crawl has already been created.


Paraphrasing the opening crawl:

Spoiler:
There has been peace in the galaxy, but the king of a military run group of systems called The First Order is gravely ill. His son Kylo Ren is now the leader of the First Order, and the Republic and Leia are worried about that. She's sent Poe to try and calm things and basically get the First Order to scale back it's increased military activity.
So he's not sent to retrieve Luke's saber from Von Sydow?

Opening scene:

Spoiler:
After the script, the camera pans down and Poe's X Wing comes out of hyperspace. The camera follows as it flys by to reverse 180 degrees and then pans up a ways to show the massive Star Destroyer

Officers inquire as to his intentions and he states he's on a diplomatic mission from the Republic. The officer gets permission to lower the shield and tie fighters escort Dameron into the hangar.

A group of Storm Troopers is waiting for him. They take him to General Tarkin and Dameron asks to see Kylo Ren. Tarkin says Kylo is busy but he would pass along whatever it is he came to say. Dameron tells Tarkin to scale back the military exercises or face consequences. Phasma is the background of this shot.

BB-8 hacks into the destroyer while this is happening. Tarkin gives his regards to Dameron and sends him back on his way, then tells a trooper to apprehend Dameron after an officer informs him of unauthorized activity in the system.

Poe Dameron has to fight his way out and is in constant communication with BB-8. Finn ends up being the trooper to stun Dameron just as he tells BB-8 to leave. The X Wing is shot down as it tries to flee and Tarkin orders Dameron locked up and a retrieval of the X Wing from the planet below, then tells an officer to inform "his Excellency" at once.
They also claim Domhnall Gleeson is playing General Tarkin.

Other tidbits:

Spoiler:
General Tarkin tells Poe to send his regards to "Senator Organa".
First we've heard of this. MSW claimed she's referred to as "Queen Leia", which sounds questionable to me.


The resistance is a faction inside the First Order that's funded by the Republic. Granted, I've not seen this but the person who showed me these 10 minutes told me that when explaining the political landscape of the new film.
If this bit is legit, it sounds like things aren't as clear cut as Resistance=Rebellion and First Order=Empire.


Concerning tone:
Actually, the most surprising thing to me was that it didn't feel like either previous trilogy.

I mean sure, you've got your little ship/big ship first shot that feels OT, but what happens after this feels more like James Bond than Star Wars, in a good way. I think they're building up this Poe to be quite the badass.

Lastly:
"you're probably going to see it in July in IMAX theaters in front of Ant Man"
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens (12/18/2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fi

did I miss something here...

Spoiler:
General Tarkin? a clone? his son?
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens (12/18/2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fi

^ If it's even true, I'd guess grandson.

Spoiler:
I could certainly buy it:

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Re: Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens (12/18/2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fi

yeah. that confused me. I guess he fucked? Or science made that up.
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens (12/18/2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fi

That would just be needless fan service. Along the lines of that early Boba Fett rumor.
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens (12/18/2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fi

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yeah. that confused me. I guess he fucked? Or science made that up.
He and grandma had relations.
Old 06-01-15, 01:38 PM
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens (12/18/2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fi

Originally Posted by Timber
That would just be needless fan service. Along the lines of that early Boba Fett rumor.
But it also explains why we got a book devoted to the original character. If he's going to be in all three movies, it's not fan service...if he's just a supporting character, it IS fan service.
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens (12/18/2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fi

So I take it Star Wars is now officially a PG-13 series right?
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens (12/18/2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fi

RotS was PG-13. I couldn't imagine it not being that w/ the new ones.
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens (12/18/2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fi

Yeah but the other 5 weren't which is mostly why I was curious. Though I'm sure ESB would have been if it had existed, not that it was particularly violent.
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens (12/18/2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fi

ESB for sure would have been PG-13. RotJ... I think it'd hit PG-13 just cuz it was hitting some darker beats.
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Naw, RotJ falls in well with PG, "pushes it" a wee bit but not enough to hit that -13 level. I was kind of surprised by a few things thrown in the last PG movies I saw (Secret Life of Walter Mitty).

You gotta remember 80s standards weren't terribly high, PG-13 was introduced in 84, Beetlejuice came out in 89 and was PG despite an f-bomb or two.

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Re: Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens (12/18/2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fi

We've sort of seen a ratings shift in recent years. PG-13 is sort of the new PG, and PG is mostly for kids' movies, while only animated features and live action movies that are 100% inoffensive will earn a G.

There's no way that Planet of the Apes would earn a G today, nor would Jaws get a PG. both would be PG-13 at least.

The Hobbit movies were rated PG-13 despite being sexless, no swearing, and containing fantasy violence.
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens (12/18/2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fi

I dunno. TDK or TDKR don't seem so much with what I think is PG. To me, PG-13 shows some emotional depth of some sort that is comprehended more towards early teens onward. YMMV though cuz some kids develop well mentally in understanding what is being thrown at them and some are just fucktards cuz of their parents. Along with some violence and sexuality that is appropriate towards the age range based on culture and development within it.

We really need to fix the Ratings Board though. Get some people w/ some knowledge of media to be part of it aside from getting fucking nobodies that don't understand the art of the mediums and comprehension of cultural realities. And within all that how the fiction is depicted in the "world" it is. Instead of pussying out towards bullshit cuz of their insecurities of actual culture, religion, violence, and sexuality.
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens (12/18/2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fi

ROTS got a PG-13 because one of its main characters was essentially burned alive. If that scene isn't there, it would have gotten a PG like the other two prequels.
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens (12/18/2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fi

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We really need to fix the Ratings Board though. Get some people w/ some knowledge of media to be part of it aside from getting fucking nobodies that don't understand the art of the mediums and comprehension of cultural realities. And within all that how the fiction is depicted in the "world" it is. Instead of pussying out towards bullshit cuz of their insecurities of actual culture, religion, violence, and sexuality.
The ratings board is strange. Doesn't the clout a studio or director have help soften what the MPAA gives a movie? I've seen movies with small budgets with not that much money behind them have to get heavily cut in order just to get an R and yet movies with crazy shit going on, people getting mutilated or full frontal nudity crazy amount of sex scenes will get an R, where normally they'd get NC-17.

I think mentioning what occurs in the film is a better way to educate parents or people who are sensitive to certain things, but then again, I hate when they do that on the radio, especially for horror because then it takes the surprise out. Movies are so much part of the cultural experience though, like drive through fast food that parents either just the film based solely on the rating, regardless of the content, or they just assume it's okay based on it's reputation.
Nudity is still a big taboo but violence is okay, being one example.
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The biggest example. It's incredibly bizarre. The kind of violence you can get away with on basic TV-Hannibal having someone cut off his own face and feed it to his dog, Jack Bauer torturing people constantly-is tame compared to basic cable. If you did what you do on The Strain or The Walking Dead in the 1980s, you'd be lucky to get an R-rating. God forbid someone show nekkidness though! We CANNOT have children and teenagers asking questions about sex. They might ask about something healthy, natural, normal, that forms a key component of human identity, and is necessary for the propagation of the species. Violence is fine though, obviously. Violence never hurt anybody.

It's much better to have them learn about sex from their friends who heard it from their friends or from websites on the Internet that accurately reflect reality. That's totally health, and can't have any harmful effects.
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens (12/18/2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fi

I would assume PG-13, but who knows they might be going for the more 'classic' approach to SW... I'd bet on PG-13 though. (and to be honest, I'd be a little disappointed if it wasn't) Remember the first one was in some respects the most graphic - Vader crushing the guys throat (though that was all audio) the pools of blood around the severed arm, the charred skeletons, etc.
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens (12/18/2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fi

Major retcon in the new Star Wars canon:

Spoiler:
Han Solo had a previous wife. In a new comic series set between Episodes IV and V it is revealed that he was married to someone named Sana Solo.

Source:
http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/06/...e-for-han-solo

Apparently this will be canon because Disney has said that all the books and comics are going to be part of their new canon.
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens (12/18/2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fi

Originally Posted by kgrogers1979
Major retcon in the new Star Wars canon:

Spoiler:
Han Solo had a previous wife. In a new comic series set between Episodes IV and V it is revealed that he was married to someone named Sana Solo.

Source:
http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/06/...e-for-han-solo

Apparently this will be canon because Disney has said that all the books and comics are going to be part of their new canon.
Yup and I think it's going to play into TFA. There is the one obvious way but I'm not sure how they would actually explain it on film.


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