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Old 08-04-13, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike86
I don't think they would do that. It honestly wouldn't even make sense for them to base this film off of The Dark Knight Returns if they want to use this as a set up for the new Batman films and the Justice League film. If they were to base it off of that Bruce would have already retired as Batman and would be way older (he's 55 in that story) and coming back essentially for one last blowout. I think what's more likely is that they're wanting to go for a Bruce who's been active as Batman for quite a while already (maybe like five years or so) and who will act as the eventual leader of the Justice League team.
So DC's gonna pull a Marvel and make the most popular character (i.e., Iron Man/Batman) the leader and not the character who has always been/should be the leader (Supes/Cap)?
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So DC's gonna pull a Marvel and make the most popular character (i.e., Iron Man/Batman) the leader and not the character who has always been/should be the leader (Supes/Cap)?
Although RDJ was clearly the lead actor of Marvel's The Avengers (and even got top billing), Tony Stark was not written as the Leader. He was more of the Wild Card. And Cap was calling the shots during the final battle.
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re: Untitled Superman & Batman Film (2015) (D: Snyder; S: Cavill, Affleck)

It'd be funny if Manganiello got the role to star alongside Cavill. I believe he also auditioned for the Supes role.
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Originally Posted by Dragon Tattoo
So DC's gonna pull a Marvel and make the most popular character (i.e., Iron Man/Batman) the leader and not the character who has always been/should be the leader (Supes/Cap)?
I wouldn't have a problem with it. Personally even though Superman technically is the leader of the Justice League I've always kind of viewed him and Batman on about equal level in the group so I think either of them could assume the role.
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I like the view of having Wonder Woman, Batman, and Superman as the "Big Three" equally in charge of the Justice League.
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Originally Posted by RocShemp
I like the view of having Wonder Woman, Batman, and Superman as the "Big Three" equally in charge of the Justice League.
Because history has been littered with great examples of three equal co-leaders? Read up on Roman history to find out that doesn't work in practice. I've never really seen Batman as a leader of the Justice League. He's the quiet operator in the background type.

Anyone but Brolin for Batman in this movie. Brolin is wildly overrated by fanboys for every role. I'd even take Gosling over him in the role, though I think Gosling is a huge misstep by WB.
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Manganiello is an interesting choice, he would be much less distracting on screen than Brolin would, really hope Brolin doesn't get the role
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Originally Posted by PhantomStranger
Because history has been littered with great examples of three equal co-leaders? Read up on Roman history to find out that doesn't work in practice. I've never really seen Batman as a leader of the Justice League. He's the quiet operator in the background type.
Why are you bringing history into an idealized comic book scenario?

Besides, most comics tend to have the other Leaguers view them as the Big Three.

But you are right that Batman does not play well with others. Hell, he founded the Outsiders because he felt that the Justice League didn't give him enough space to do things solo and then abandoned the Outsiders for the same exact reason.
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I hate all these choices too except Hamm, though I'm not ready to pass judgment on Armitage. If they want grizzled Guy Pierce would be my choice.
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Yeah, he'd pull in the chicks...but has anyone see this guy act? He's okay, but he's not Batman material.

If those ARE the finalists, I'd take Brolin over any of the others.
Joe Manganiello is on True Blood. He cannot act. Hired for his muscles and that's about it.
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Michael Keaton, or go home


(and on a similar note, Adam West for Batman:Year 100).
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Brolin could pull off Batman in the mask. For The Dark Knight Returns. He can't pull it off as regular Bats and a Bruce Waybe though.
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It won't happen because of Hulk but Bana would make a great Bruce Wayne. Plus the Hulk was a mess not because of Bana but because Ang Lee made it basically a big budget art movie.

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Peter Dinklage.
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Originally Posted by PenguinJoe
It won't happen because of Hulk but Bana would make a great Bruce Wayne. Plus the Hulk was a mess not because of Bana but because Ang Lee made it basically a big budget art movie.

And he's got a nice gravelly voice to sound all Batman-ish.

Originally Posted by DaveyJoe
Peter Dinklage.
In a perfect world. But this is not it.

Seriously, why hasn't WB hired Dinklage to voice Batman in one of their animated movies?

And speaking of Batman voice actors, if they want to go for an older (like that's gonna happen) Bruce/Batman, they could get Bruce Greenwood:

Spoiler:
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Why would Hulk disqualify Bana from this movie? FF didn't disqualify Evans, nor did Wolverine disqualify Reynolds. (of course, this is all because I'm secretly hoping Jennifer Connelly gets to do something, eventually, in the current comic book movieverses).
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re: Untitled Superman & Batman Film (2015) (D: Snyder; S: Cavill, Affleck)

Originally Posted by RocShemp
And speaking of Batman voice actors, if they want to go for an older (like that's gonna happen) Bruce/Batman, they could get Bruce Greenwood:

Spoiler:
True, he was good in Under the Red Hood but he's 57, so unless they're going to go The Dark Knight Returns, that would be too old.
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Bana clearly looks the part, I simply don't think the guy is a good actor. He's awful in covering up his natural accent.
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Originally Posted by RocShemp
I like the view of having Wonder Woman, Batman, and Superman as the "Big Three" equally in charge of the Justice League.
Having all three trying to be leaders would be great, that causing nothing but trouble in the movie.
-Batman with his Knowledge of what is really going on because of his prior investigations
-Superman because of his sense of right and wrong (code against killing after the Zod incident)
-Wonder Woman because of he warrior attitude and her underlining distrust of men (and her pride)

This would add some stress and humor to the movie. In the end, they would figure out they each have their own strength and that they have to trust each other.
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I'd love to see Bana as Batman. He's athletic like Bale and has the acting chops as well.

I've never given much thought to the Justice League having a leader, but if there is one, it's Superman, with Wonder Woman as second in command. Batman's role was best defined by the Justice League cartoon, where he wasn't even an "official" member. The other six saw him as a member, but he himself was not beholden to the team or subject to their decisions.
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Having all three trying to be leaders would be great, that causing nothing but trouble in the movie.
-Batman with his Knowledge of what is really going on because of his prior investigations
-Superman because of his sense of right and wrong (code against killing after the Zod incident)
-Wonder Woman because of he warrior attitude and her underlining distrust of men (and her pride)

This would add some stress and humor to the movie. In the end, they would figure out they each have their own strength and that they have to trust each other.
Another awesome source of tension: Bats and Supes are all about sparing lives, whereas Wonder Woman is willing to use lethal force.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Flix
I'd love to see Bana as Batman. He's athletic like Bale and has the acting chops as well.

I've never given much thought to the Justice League having a leader, but if there is one, it's Superman, with Wonder Woman as second in command. Batman's role was best defined by the Justice League cartoon, where he wasn't even an "official" member. The other six saw him as a member, but he himself was not beholden to the team or subject to their decisions.
This may sound weird but is Bale even athletic? I know Bana does a lot athletic things out of acting but I've never see Bale do much. Seems like he just does what needs to be done for the role and that's it. That wouldn't make him athletic. Bana on the other hand is always doing shit outside.
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Stunt men handle almost all athletic movements on film these days, especially for guys in costumes.
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I think Bale was a dancer. So I guess that is pretty athletic.
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This may sound weird but is Bale even athletic? I know Bana does a lot athletic things out of acting but I've never see Bale do much. Seems like he just does what needs to be done for the role and that's it. That wouldn't make him athletic. Bana on the other hand is always doing shit outside.
Point taken. Bale at least built up the physique necessary to portray Batman. Whether or not he's otherwise athletic, no idea. I guess my point was that Bana is typically physically fit enough for the role.


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