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The Hateful Eight (Tarantino, 2015) — The Reviews Thread — SPOILERS
#226
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Don't lend anything to a film shoot. Don't ever let a film crew shoot in your home or on your property. I've done the latter and...never again.
#228
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Re: The Hateful Eight (Tarantino, 2015) — The Reviews Thread — SPOILERS
Yeah, Daisy's character is like "woah, woah, woah" in the film. Obviously she knew they weren't supposed to break it. I guess QT told Kurt to smash it without telling anyone else.
#229
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Re: The Hateful Eight (Tarantino, 2015) — The Reviews Thread — SPOILERS
Yeah, check out JJL's final "whoa!", where she's looking not at any of the actors, but obviously at someone behind the camera.
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#232
Re: The Hateful Eight (Tarantino, 2015) — The Reviews Thread — SPOILERS
An indie feature that never got released. One of the characters rifles through the desk drawers in my bedroom and I had no idea they did that until I saw the finished film. Luckily, there was nothing of a personal nature in the drawers, if you get my drift, but what if...?
And they shot in my brother's bedroom in my mother's house and he's got all these political stickers over everything (e.g. "Global Hegemony") and the character who lives there in the film is a low-level thief involved in a robbery. And they shot in my mother's living room against a backdrop of bookshelves filled with musty old encyclopedias and literary classics--as if this thief would have such a library. It was pretty hilarious.
And they shot in my brother's bedroom in my mother's house and he's got all these political stickers over everything (e.g. "Global Hegemony") and the character who lives there in the film is a low-level thief involved in a robbery. And they shot in my mother's living room against a backdrop of bookshelves filled with musty old encyclopedias and literary classics--as if this thief would have such a library. It was pretty hilarious.
#233
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Re: The Hateful Eight (Tarantino, 2015) — The Reviews Thread — SPOILERS
I listened to my copy of the score on vinyl and there seems to be a deleted scene/dialogue in which
Maybe that scene will be restored?
Spoiler:
#234
Re: The Hateful Eight (Tarantino, 2015) — The Reviews Thread — SPOILERS
I heard that scene on the soundtrack too and thought it was a bad cut. When I saw the movie, I thought it was odd that Mannix, who was fawning all over the General earlier, didn't seem to care the General was sitting by himself during dinner and that the "n-word" was the one to bring him a bowl of stew, when I would have thought Mannix would have been making sure the General was being taken care of.
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Re: The Hateful Eight (Tarantino, 2015) — The Reviews Thread — SPOILERS
Django had some deleted scenes in the dialogue bits, too. I like that about some QT soundtracks - you get additional bits from the film that didn't make it to the screen.
#236
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Re: The Hateful Eight (Tarantino, 2015) — The Reviews Thread — SPOILERS
Saw the movie last weekend, finally. I agree with those that mentioned pacing issues. I would place it in the middle of his filmography. It was still very enjoyable and I will grab the blu-disc. I wonder if there will be a separate roadhouse version.
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Re: The Hateful Eight (Tarantino, 2015) — The Reviews Thread — SPOILERS
Cool poster, but notice it's like a chuck wagon, not the stagecoach in the actual film. Poster must have been done back in the conceptual phase before they had solid design decisions.
#240
Re: The Hateful Eight (Tarantino, 2015) — The Reviews Thread — SPOILERS
Watched it again last night, and besides it not being the 70mm projection of the roadshow version, it was even better the second time.
QT's best film since Jackie Brown.
4.5/5
QT's best film since Jackie Brown.
4.5/5
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Re: The Hateful Eight (Tarantino, 2015) — The Reviews Thread — SPOILERS
i have to see this again and put in queue. fucking loved it. so masterful. say what you want, but i think QT is a genius. incredible dialogue that you hang on every word. incredible mind and stories...
#242
Re: The Hateful Eight (Tarantino, 2015) — The Reviews Thread — SPOILERS
I've watched it again since theatres, and revisited certain scenes dozens of times on their own, and the appreciation of my initial viewing not only holds up but has probably strengthened. It's an absorbing movie, full of unsettling atmosphere, great performances, a brutal winter. It's a grand film.
Yet at the same time, I feel like this is the first movie that works because of Tarantino the director, not Tarantino the writer. I wish he'd been a little more ambitious with the screenplay and actually built the "Agatha Christie mystery" he compared the film to in many interviews.
Warren doesn't really piece together clues and intelligently figure out what's been happening behind the scenes. All he does is line everyone up against the wall. Who's guilty? Turns out all of them. So they attack and Daisy blurt out all their plans like a James Bond villain.
Watching the film a second time, I was disappointed there were no moments enhanced by now knowing the full story. Finding out the door was busted because it got winged in the shootout, I found myself thinking, "Okay, that's logical" rather than being shocked or surprised. The smashed jelly bean jar also falls flat.
I wonder if the film would have been more interesting if all the bad guys weren't working together. What if two of them were Daisy's gang members, and two more were the rouge bounty hunters John Ruth was afraid of? You'd have the gang members pretending to be other people, unaware two of those people they are pretending for also aren't who they say they are. Now you have two factions trying to reach the same goal (kill Ruth and take Daisy) but adversarial to each other because they want her for different reasons.
What if the General had been trying to warn them something was up instead of just yelling at Warren? Imagine on second viewing, realizing he'd been trying to focus their attention on something that should have clued them into the danger they were in, which now makes his shooting by Warren a tragic decision, as it winds up sealing his own doom.
I'm not saying I wished the movie used these specific suggestions, just somethings that would have enhanced the drama and mystery, breaking up the very simple A to B path the story took.
TLDR: wonderful movie but I wish it had been more clever
Yet at the same time, I feel like this is the first movie that works because of Tarantino the director, not Tarantino the writer. I wish he'd been a little more ambitious with the screenplay and actually built the "Agatha Christie mystery" he compared the film to in many interviews.
Warren doesn't really piece together clues and intelligently figure out what's been happening behind the scenes. All he does is line everyone up against the wall. Who's guilty? Turns out all of them. So they attack and Daisy blurt out all their plans like a James Bond villain.
Watching the film a second time, I was disappointed there were no moments enhanced by now knowing the full story. Finding out the door was busted because it got winged in the shootout, I found myself thinking, "Okay, that's logical" rather than being shocked or surprised. The smashed jelly bean jar also falls flat.
I wonder if the film would have been more interesting if all the bad guys weren't working together. What if two of them were Daisy's gang members, and two more were the rouge bounty hunters John Ruth was afraid of? You'd have the gang members pretending to be other people, unaware two of those people they are pretending for also aren't who they say they are. Now you have two factions trying to reach the same goal (kill Ruth and take Daisy) but adversarial to each other because they want her for different reasons.
What if the General had been trying to warn them something was up instead of just yelling at Warren? Imagine on second viewing, realizing he'd been trying to focus their attention on something that should have clued them into the danger they were in, which now makes his shooting by Warren a tragic decision, as it winds up sealing his own doom.
I'm not saying I wished the movie used these specific suggestions, just somethings that would have enhanced the drama and mystery, breaking up the very simple A to B path the story took.
TLDR: wonderful movie but I wish it had been more clever
#243
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Re: The Hateful Eight (Tarantino, 2015) — The Reviews Thread — SPOILERS
Haven't seen this since its release but for some reason forgot to vote in the poll. I gave it a 2.5/5, far too long and as others have said, the first half dragged way too long and the dialogue wasn't that great. By the time things picked up, I was ready to just let be over.
One day I might revisit but haven't had the desire.
One day I might revisit but haven't had the desire.
#244
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Re: The Hateful Eight (Tarantino, 2015) — The Reviews Thread — SPOILERS
This movie is so great. Every time I'm channel surfing & catch it I end up watching the entire thing. One thing about it bugs me though...
When Sam Jackson tells Bob that Minnie hated Mexicans & didn't allow them in her Haberdashery we see Bob & Minnie getting along fine in the flashback. I know Sam J does a lot of bullshitting in this film but I don't think he was here, I think Quentin actually fkd up.
When Sam Jackson tells Bob that Minnie hated Mexicans & didn't allow them in her Haberdashery we see Bob & Minnie getting along fine in the flashback. I know Sam J does a lot of bullshitting in this film but I don't think he was here, I think Quentin actually fkd up.
#245
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Re: The Hateful Eight (Tarantino, 2015) — The Reviews Thread — SPOILERS
Walton Goggins should have gotten an Oscar nomination.
As far as the Mexican bit and Minnie being able to identify him as one, Bob is one of them white Mexicans. He doesn't look like your "typical" Mexican, which is why I think they let that go. Demian Bechir is Mexican, but his name and looks does not sound like one.
As far as the Mexican bit and Minnie being able to identify him as one, Bob is one of them white Mexicans. He doesn't look like your "typical" Mexican, which is why I think they let that go. Demian Bechir is Mexican, but his name and looks does not sound like one.
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#246
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Re: The Hateful Eight (Tarantino, 2015) — The Reviews Thread — SPOILERS
Walton Goggins should have gotten an Oscar nomination.
As far as the Mexican bit and Minnie being able to identify him as one, Bob is one of them white Mexicans. He doesn't look like your "typical" Mexican, which is why I think they let that go. Demian Bechir is Mexican, but his name and looks does not sound like one.![Shrug](/images/smilies/shrug.gif)
As far as the Mexican bit and Minnie being able to identify him as one, Bob is one of them white Mexicans. He doesn't look like your "typical" Mexican, which is why I think they let that go. Demian Bechir is Mexican, but his name and looks does not sound like one.
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Re: The Hateful Eight (Tarantino, 2015) — The Reviews Thread — SPOILERS
Walton Goggins should have gotten an Oscar nomination.
As far as the Mexican bit and Minnie being able to identify him as one, Bob is one of them white Mexicans. He doesn't look like your "typical" Mexican, which is why I think they let that go. Demian Bechir is Mexican, but his name and looks does not sound like one.![Shrug](/images/smilies/shrug.gif)
As far as the Mexican bit and Minnie being able to identify him as one, Bob is one of them white Mexicans. He doesn't look like your "typical" Mexican, which is why I think they let that go. Demian Bechir is Mexican, but his name and looks does not sound like one.
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#248
Re: The Hateful Eight (Tarantino, 2015) — The Reviews Thread — SPOILERS
This movie is so great. Every time I'm channel surfing & catch it I end up watching the entire thing. One thing about it bugs me though...
When Sam Jackson tells Bob that Minnie hated Mexicans & didn't allow them in her Haberdashery we see Bob & Minnie getting along fine in the flashback. I know Sam J does a lot of bullshitting in this film but I don't think he was here, I think Quentin actually fkd up.
When Sam Jackson tells Bob that Minnie hated Mexicans & didn't allow them in her Haberdashery we see Bob & Minnie getting along fine in the flashback. I know Sam J does a lot of bullshitting in this film but I don't think he was here, I think Quentin actually fkd up.
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Re: The Hateful Eight (Tarantino, 2015) — The Reviews Thread — SPOILERS
Thats an interesting point. But he only announced that to Senior Bob after he had already discovered Sweet Dave's blood soaked chair. Not to mention the stew. So he pretty much already knew Bob was lying about Minnie and Dave being alive.