The 78th Annual Academy Awards Show Discussion
03-06-06, 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Al Padrino
You may wanna stick to talking about things you know about. I'm no fan of Three 6 Mafia, but they've carved their own niche in the industry and have been around (and popular) for quite a few years.
I guess I've been too busy listening to music all these years.
(I have honestly never heard of them.
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03-06-06, 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by ItsGreekToMe
Really?
I guess I've been too busy listening to music all these years.
(I have honestly never heard of them. )
I guess I've been too busy listening to music all these years.
(I have honestly never heard of them.
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03-06-06, 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by BrentLumkin
Flags of Our Fathers vs. The Departed
Clint Eastwood vs. Martin Scorsese
Clint Eastwood vs. Martin Scorsese
03-06-06, 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by The Zizz
Won't be that interesting; if both movies are good, Scorsese will inevitably get screwed in favor of Academy favorite Clint Eastwood.
03-06-06, 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by ItsGreekToMe
Really?
I guess I've been too busy listening to music all these years.
(I have honestly never heard of them. )
I guess I've been too busy listening to music all these years.
(I have honestly never heard of them.
)
03-06-06, 02:00 AM
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Did anyone happen to seee Tarantino on Jimmy Kimmel afterwards? I came into the room as he was giving his "Best of '05" movie list, and I missed #1.
For the record:
1. ???????
2. Domino (Tony Scott)
3. Hustle & Flow
4. The Devil's Rejects
Just curious about that big #1 spot.
For the record:
1. ???????
2. Domino (Tony Scott)
3. Hustle & Flow
4. The Devil's Rejects
Just curious about that big #1 spot.
03-06-06, 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Al Padrino
Ah yes, the inevitable "rap isn't music" debate.
But hey, if taking an older song and talking/yelling over it, (Diddy - or whatever he's calling himself this week - has used songs by Led Zeppelin, Diana Ross and The Police, among others), makes sense to you, great! If you think that's creative, fine! If you think that takes ANY creativity or talent, spiffy!
Maybe I'm too old to understand. Maybe, growing up in the '60s and '70s, I remember the great singer/songwriters of the past and their incredible talent. Maybe I'm just too old to NOT think that yelling over a song created by someone else and calling it original and yours is ANYTHING other than what it REALLY is - NOT sampling, but STEALING!
Sorry, but on some topics, I'm not very reasonable, and this is one of them. To me, it's a sacred thing.
03-06-06, 06:53 AM
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Oh lord, quit it.
Rap is most definitely music. "Hard out here for a pimp" however is a lousy song. The Academy is making up for lost time since they ignored rap for so long. "Fight The Power" is one of the best film songs, period, and it wasn't nominated. It was a song that was integral to a great film (which was also ignored except for Danny Aiello, ha ha) because the Academy wasn't ready (and also because of their "no samples" rule)
"Lose Yourself" is a good song and was a worthy nominee because it was integral to the story of the film and had a real drama about it. I know this song is important to the story of Hustle & Flow but it's a crap song. Were there really only these three songs worth nominating this year? Dolly's was good, but that Crash song was terrible.
Edit: Just found the list of elligible songs:
"Along the River" from "End of the Spear"
"Angels Talk" from "Angels with Angles"
"Butterfly" from "Because of Winn-Dixie"
"Can't Take It In" from "The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe"
"Closer Every Day" from "Freezerburn: The Movie "
"Dicholo" from "The Constant Gardener"
"Do the Hippogriff" from "Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire"
"Dreamer" from "Dreamer: Inspired by a True Story"
"Face of Faith" from "Rumor Has It"
"Fight for the Children" from "Palindromes"
"Finding Home" from "Finding Home"
"Great Big World" from "Hoodwinked"
"Have a Little Faith" from "The Theory of Everything"
"Hustle & Flow (It Ain't Over)" from "Hustle & Flow"
"(I'd Have It All) If I Had Drew" from "My Date with Drew"
"If I Apologize" from "Mirrormask"
"I'll Be Near You" from "Bee Season"
"I'll Whip Ya Head Boy" from "Get Rich or Die Tryin'"
"In the Deep" from "Crash"
"It Ain't Over Yet” from "Racing Stripes"
"It's Hard Out Here for a Pimp" from "Hustle & Flow"
"I've Gotta See You Smile" from "Because of Winn-Dixie"
"Mad Hot Ballroom" from "Mad Hot Ballroom"
"Move Away and Shine" from "Thumbsucker"
"My Brother, My People" from "Blues by the Beach"
"Nobody Jesus But You" from "Palindromes"
"One Blood" from "Green Street Hooligans"
"One Little Slip" from "Chicken Little"
"One Safe Place" from "The Upside of Anger"
"Reachin' for Heaven" from "Ice Princess"
"Remains of the Day" from "Tim Burton's Corpse Bride"
"Same in Any Language" from "Elizabethtown"
"Shine" from "Robots"
"Shoulder to Shoulder" from "Pooh's Heffalump Movie"
"So Long and Thanks for All the Fish" from "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy"
"Taking the Inside Rail" from "Racing Stripes"
"Tell Me What You Already Did" from "Robots"
"There's Nothing Like a Show on Broadway" from "The Producers"
"These Days" from "The Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants"
"This Is the Way" from "Palindromes"
"Travelin' Thru" from "Transamerica"
"You're Gonna Die Soon" from "Sarah Silverman: Jesus Is Magic"
They could have pulled a couple more from that list.
Rap is most definitely music. "Hard out here for a pimp" however is a lousy song. The Academy is making up for lost time since they ignored rap for so long. "Fight The Power" is one of the best film songs, period, and it wasn't nominated. It was a song that was integral to a great film (which was also ignored except for Danny Aiello, ha ha) because the Academy wasn't ready (and also because of their "no samples" rule)
"Lose Yourself" is a good song and was a worthy nominee because it was integral to the story of the film and had a real drama about it. I know this song is important to the story of Hustle & Flow but it's a crap song. Were there really only these three songs worth nominating this year? Dolly's was good, but that Crash song was terrible.
Edit: Just found the list of elligible songs:
"Along the River" from "End of the Spear"
"Angels Talk" from "Angels with Angles"
"Butterfly" from "Because of Winn-Dixie"
"Can't Take It In" from "The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe"
"Closer Every Day" from "Freezerburn: The Movie "
"Dicholo" from "The Constant Gardener"
"Do the Hippogriff" from "Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire"
"Dreamer" from "Dreamer: Inspired by a True Story"
"Face of Faith" from "Rumor Has It"
"Fight for the Children" from "Palindromes"
"Finding Home" from "Finding Home"
"Great Big World" from "Hoodwinked"
"Have a Little Faith" from "The Theory of Everything"
"Hustle & Flow (It Ain't Over)" from "Hustle & Flow"
"(I'd Have It All) If I Had Drew" from "My Date with Drew"
"If I Apologize" from "Mirrormask"
"I'll Be Near You" from "Bee Season"
"I'll Whip Ya Head Boy" from "Get Rich or Die Tryin'"
"In the Deep" from "Crash"
"It Ain't Over Yet” from "Racing Stripes"
"It's Hard Out Here for a Pimp" from "Hustle & Flow"
"I've Gotta See You Smile" from "Because of Winn-Dixie"
"Mad Hot Ballroom" from "Mad Hot Ballroom"
"Move Away and Shine" from "Thumbsucker"
"My Brother, My People" from "Blues by the Beach"
"Nobody Jesus But You" from "Palindromes"
"One Blood" from "Green Street Hooligans"
"One Little Slip" from "Chicken Little"
"One Safe Place" from "The Upside of Anger"
"Reachin' for Heaven" from "Ice Princess"
"Remains of the Day" from "Tim Burton's Corpse Bride"
"Same in Any Language" from "Elizabethtown"
"Shine" from "Robots"
"Shoulder to Shoulder" from "Pooh's Heffalump Movie"
"So Long and Thanks for All the Fish" from "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy"
"Taking the Inside Rail" from "Racing Stripes"
"Tell Me What You Already Did" from "Robots"
"There's Nothing Like a Show on Broadway" from "The Producers"
"These Days" from "The Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants"
"This Is the Way" from "Palindromes"
"Travelin' Thru" from "Transamerica"
"You're Gonna Die Soon" from "Sarah Silverman: Jesus Is Magic"
They could have pulled a couple more from that list.
03-06-06, 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by dhmac
Stanley Kubrick died on March 7, 1999 and was in the Oscar retrospective a mere two weeks later on March 21, 1999. Either he was considered a special case and they ignored the end-of-year thing, or maybe Don Knotts and Darren McGavin died too close to the show to give them time to assemble clips, so they'll instead be in next year's retrospective.
I didn't think I was losing it. They were just too lazy to add them this year.
03-06-06, 07:06 AM
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Really enjoyed the show. Being a huge Jon Stewart fan, I loved the opening and the "campaign ads" were hilarious. He had a couple great lines throughout the night. "TRILOGY!" Now, I'm the biggest Steven Spielberg fan there is, but everytime they showed him tonight, he looked pissed off or annoyed at the jokes/speeches etc. He looks like he's turning into a grumpy old man...this makes me extremely sad.
Anyhow, I for one love IT'S HARD OUT HERE FOR A PIMP. Is it the best song ever? No. But for a song in a movie with the most importance IN THAT MOVIE, I'd say it certainly deserved to win (well, anything from H&F - Whoop That Trick would have sufficed). It has a KILLER hook and that is why it won. Loved the Three Six mafia acceptance...couldn't understand half of it, but loved it. "Martin Scorsese, Zero Oscars. Three Six Mafia - ONE." GOLD!!!!
Happy that Crash deservedly took best picture. Don't get me wrong, Brokeback is a nice love story and a well made film, but out of the nominees, I thought it was one of the weaker movies. Lots of talk about how the academy chickened out over a movie with gay characters and cowboys... well, has anyone ever heard of MIDNIGHT COWBOY... come on, any of the angry sentiments people are batting around here are bullshit... Brokeback lost because Crash had a HUGE push with TONS of DVDs making their way into voters hands and it pulled out the victory. IMO, the Academy is still as relevant today as they were two days ago (which actually might not be saying much, but it wasn't like this was the last straw). Congrats to Crash.
Also tied for first in the DVDtalk pool! Congrats to everyone else who participated and the others who took the top spot...good picks!
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Anyhow, I for one love IT'S HARD OUT HERE FOR A PIMP. Is it the best song ever? No. But for a song in a movie with the most importance IN THAT MOVIE, I'd say it certainly deserved to win (well, anything from H&F - Whoop That Trick would have sufficed). It has a KILLER hook and that is why it won. Loved the Three Six mafia acceptance...couldn't understand half of it, but loved it. "Martin Scorsese, Zero Oscars. Three Six Mafia - ONE." GOLD!!!!
Happy that Crash deservedly took best picture. Don't get me wrong, Brokeback is a nice love story and a well made film, but out of the nominees, I thought it was one of the weaker movies. Lots of talk about how the academy chickened out over a movie with gay characters and cowboys... well, has anyone ever heard of MIDNIGHT COWBOY... come on, any of the angry sentiments people are batting around here are bullshit... Brokeback lost because Crash had a HUGE push with TONS of DVDs making their way into voters hands and it pulled out the victory. IMO, the Academy is still as relevant today as they were two days ago (which actually might not be saying much, but it wasn't like this was the last straw). Congrats to Crash.
Also tied for first in the DVDtalk pool! Congrats to everyone else who participated and the others who took the top spot...good picks!
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03-06-06, 07:07 AM
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I knew I had read about the carpet-bombing efforts of Lionsgate distributing over 130,000 Crash DVDs to the Academy as well as SAG and WG, that number being 10 times the usual amount of screeners sent out.
Variety article
I guess the promotion worked for Crash this year. But, just earlier in the broadcast, the academy wasn't showing DVDs, in general, much love, now were they?
Variety article
I guess the promotion worked for Crash this year. But, just earlier in the broadcast, the academy wasn't showing DVDs, in general, much love, now were they?
03-06-06, 07:19 AM
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Yeah, that was lame. If they want us to treasure the theater experience again they should convince theater owners to do something about the plague of children and babies making noise in grown-up movies. And cell phones. Otherwise, they don't know what they're talking about.
03-06-06, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Gil Jawetz
Yeah, that was lame. If they want us to treasure the theater experience again they should convince theater owners to do something about the plague of children and babies making noise in grown-up movies. And cell phones. Otherwise, they don't know what they're talking about.
and the prices suck too ..... do something about that.... yeah ok
03-06-06, 07:50 AM
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So Hoffman won for Capote? Thats two years in a row that someone won for an Imitation...whats next year, a lifetime achievement award for Fred Travelina?
03-06-06, 07:50 AM
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no one was a clear cut winner but i thought with the Sag awards... i also thought that Crash had it locked.....
Most of the actors vote the SAG awards.... and the majority of them also vote for the Oscars......
Most of the actors vote the SAG awards.... and the majority of them also vote for the Oscars......
03-06-06, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Gil Jawetz
Yeah, that was lame. If they want us to treasure the theater experience again they should convince theater owners to do something about the plague of children and babies making noise in grown-up movies. And cell phones. Otherwise, they don't know what they're talking about.
Did they happen to show clips of the woman vs. transvestite riot that broke out in the lowes 34th when I saw King Kong?
I will NEVER go to a theater again.
03-06-06, 08:04 AM
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Only browsed the thread but there were only a few things stood out in this years lackluster show.
- The campaign ads were a stroke of genius. Loved the sound mixing one.
- Jon Stewarts Scorcese, zero. 3-6 Mafia, one joke. Brilliant.
- Jon Stewart was average, not awful, but not great. Just a few bright spots
- 3-6 Mafia - I don't mind the song winning, or even being nominated, but take a look around fellas, this ain't the Source or MTV awards. Rent a fucking tux.
- The campaign ads were a stroke of genius. Loved the sound mixing one.
- Jon Stewarts Scorcese, zero. 3-6 Mafia, one joke. Brilliant.
- Jon Stewart was average, not awful, but not great. Just a few bright spots
- 3-6 Mafia - I don't mind the song winning, or even being nominated, but take a look around fellas, this ain't the Source or MTV awards. Rent a fucking tux.
03-06-06, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Gil Jawetz
Oh lord, quit it.
Rap is most definitely music. "Hard out here for a pimp" however is a lousy song. The Academy is making up for lost time since they ignored rap for so long. "Fight The Power" is one of the best film songs, period, and it wasn't nominated. It was a song that was integral to a great film (which was also ignored except for Danny Aiello, ha ha) because the Academy wasn't ready (and also because of their "no samples" rule)
Rap is most definitely music. "Hard out here for a pimp" however is a lousy song. The Academy is making up for lost time since they ignored rap for so long. "Fight The Power" is one of the best film songs, period, and it wasn't nominated. It was a song that was integral to a great film (which was also ignored except for Danny Aiello, ha ha) because the Academy wasn't ready (and also because of their "no samples" rule)
If I recut a film and change it around, could I claim it as my own? If I take some paint and change a work of art, could I claim it as my own? If I take someone's novel and take away and add things to it, can I say it's mine?
Maybe you should quit it. There's nothing you can say that will change facts.
03-06-06, 08:12 AM
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Not having the inclination to read the previous 20+ pages of streams-of-conciousness, was there the usual montage of the dead? Who got the biggest hand in the afterlife popularity contest?
03-06-06, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Charlie Goose
Not having the inclination to read the previous 20+ pages of streams-of-conciousness, was there the usual montage of the dead? Who got the biggest hand in the afterlife popularity contest?
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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
Only browsed the thread but there were only a few things stood out in this years lackluster show.
- The campaign ads were a stroke of genius. Loved the sound mixing one.
- Jon Stewarts Scorcese, zero. 3-6 Mafia, one joke. Brilliant.
- Jon Stewart was average, not awful, but not great. Just a few bright spots
- 3-6 Mafia - I don't mind the song winning, or even being nominated, but take a look around fellas, this ain't the Source or MTV awards. Rent a fucking tux.
- The campaign ads were a stroke of genius. Loved the sound mixing one.
- Jon Stewarts Scorcese, zero. 3-6 Mafia, one joke. Brilliant.
- Jon Stewart was average, not awful, but not great. Just a few bright spots
- 3-6 Mafia - I don't mind the song winning, or even being nominated, but take a look around fellas, this ain't the Source or MTV awards. Rent a fucking tux.
its funny because in the after party, they were all dressed up in suits and tuxes....... i guess now they are pimps...