Groucho

This show continues to go farther and farther off the rails. I don't want Pushing Daisies to get canceled, but if it does let's hope Bryan Fuller comes back to work for this show.

CPA-ESQ.

On a positive note - at least we got to see some people battling it out using powers - which is better than craptastic dialogue.

Hopefully there will be a big battle that will thin out the charachters they have been introducing every week.

Giantrobo

Ok, so we have 3 sisters. One has super strength, another has Freezing abilities, so what was the other sister's ability? I can't remember if it's ever been mentioned.

Patman

Right, no telling what Barbara's power is.

Snowmaker

I thought Niki's alter ego Jessica was her dead twin sister. Does that mean there were 4 sisters?

Tom Banjo

I've been wondering what's up with Jessica, too. Maybe she was an older sister? Did the show ever specifically say Nikki and Jessica were twins?

Giantrobo

I'm not sure. If I remember right, last night Mama Petrelli said that there were 3 sisters that were experimented on. Did I imagine that?

Niki (Super strength dead)
Tracy (freezing alive)

Jessica? Was she real but died, or is she only in Niki's head as one of her personalities?

candyrocket786

The whole teleportation in/out of the coffin pretty much negates the physical action of Hiro/Ando digging Adam up.

Snowmaker

But season one established that Jessica was once alive and Niki's twin I'm pretty sure. Whether or not Jessica was also experimented on should not dismiss that whole subplot.

This show is becoming more confusing than Lost.

Groucho

He doesn't actually teleport Adam. He stops time, puts him back into the coffin, and starts it again. He still has to do the manual labor.

Giantrobo

Yeah that's the vibe I got. People not touching Hiro when he uses his ability don't notice anything.

candyrocket786

Super endurance and stamina must be one of his hidden abilities then, because he didn't looked fatigued after "moving" Adam in and out of the coffin.

MrE

Some theorize that black holes might provide a way to travel through space and possibly time. Don't count Vortex out yet -- he may have just learned a new use for his power. And that Maya -- she's seems to always be hanging around!

Giantrobo

I remember that, but I think the girls were orphan siblings based on what Mama Petrelli said last night. So it's possible 1(Jessica) of the 3 did in fact die with Niki only knowing of Jessica's existence. So Tracy is off living her life not knowing she not only has powers, but 2 other sisters.

I guess this is why I'm asking these questions.

Rocketdog2000

It was never stated that Nikki And Jessica were twins, just sisters. If I recall correctly, I believe it was implied that Jessica was older, and that the father was an abusive alcoholic responsible for her death.

As far as other plot holes go, in the Season two episode, where they show D.L.'s fate, it was shown that Nikki had more than one personality/alter ego than just Jessica. Gina, was another one, too.

So that makes it even more convoluted as to all these variations of the sisters Nikki, Tracy and Barbara (who we've still yet to see).

Giantrobo

yep! Everyone assumes people die when they go through his vortex portals but as soon as I saw his power, I imagined another vortex opening somewhere else depositing people and things.

bigsoos

I guess Pa Petrelli must be a higher order telepath than Parkman's dad. He looked so afraid when he was giving his update.

MrE

He rested.

Giantrobo

ok, I kinda see what you're saying.

based on the Heroes Wiki site:

Jessica > Niki = Sisters

Niki > Tracy > Barbara = Triplets

Wolf359

I'm sure they will show in a flashback that Hiro stops time and puts a blood bag or something in Ando's shirt, who is playing along with his "death".

To the few of you who still seem to be liking it, good for you, but damn this show has become a mess!

pinata242

This is going to bug me. Didn't they already establish either through the show itself or in the comics (which may not mean shit anymore) that Pa Patrelli had no abilities?

GoVegan

Why does he have to be a telepath? Couldn't Parkman's dad just be reading his mind? Maybe he's Pa Petrelli's mouthpiece.

Patman

Perhaps Pa Petrelli was the first guinea pig of the Hero Formula(tm), but it had physiological effects on him.

pinata242

I got that just fine, but what I was worried about was him instilling fear into Parkman Sr. He'd have to have some sort of power to be that imposing.

I can get behind this. But doesn't it sort of fly in the face of what they were talking about testing on infants? Either way, I just want it to make sense.

celmendo

The online graphic novel showed he didn't have any powers. I was wondering if they were just ignoring that or maybe when they had the formula he injected himself? But like GoVegan said he doesn't have to have any now. But he will according to Ma's dream.

And I guess last night answered whether or not Sylar lost all his acquired powers from the first season. At least until they decide to ignore it for convenience.