The Walking Dead (S5E01) -- Season Premiere -- "No Sanctuary" -- 10/12/14
10-14-14, 07:16 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead (S5E01) -- Season Premiere -- "No Sanctuary" -- 10/12/14
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I'd be shocked if Carl does not eventually become the main focus of the comics with Rick dying. There's no way you have a character go through everything Carl has gone through by the age of 12 or so and not make him an absolute boss. His TV character is a bit annoying sometimes but Carl has gone through more than anyone else in the books.
I'd be shocked if Carl does not eventually become the main focus of the comics with Rick dying. There's no way you have a character go through everything Carl has gone through by the age of 12 or so and not make him an absolute boss. His TV character is a bit annoying sometimes but Carl has gone through more than anyone else in the books.
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10-14-14, 07:46 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead (S5E01) -- Season Premiere -- "No Sanctuary" -- 10/12/14
Their hands and legs were tied - but dropping down to their sides ruins their plans and buys them some time. If all of them did it, it would create some chaos and maybe you could trip them up and smash a face in with your boots - there were only 2 of them at the time. I wouldn't just "sit" there waiting for it. I survived this long by fighting - why go out like a bitch? Rick may have been the only one who had reason to stay put since he was working on cutting the twist-tie.
10-14-14, 08:29 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead (S5E01) -- Season Premiere -- "No Sanctuary" -- 10/12/14
I know Daryl is a popular character on the show (maybe the most popular), but Rick's always been the protagonist. The series opened with Rick waking up to this world, learning how to survive and searching for his family. I do think a lot of fans would be upset if Daryl died and that probably makes him untouchable, but I think Rick's more untouchable than Daryl simply because he's the main character. I think Rick will be around as long as Andrew Lincoln wants to play him or until the producers decide to end the show. Hell, I wouldn't be entirely shocked if the producers gave us a series finale where we learn that Rick dreamed the whole zombie apocalypse while he was comatose.
Great season opener. Love it when Rick goes into badass mode.
10-14-14, 10:35 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead (S5E01) -- Season Premiere -- "No Sanctuary" -- 10/12/14
I know Daryl is a popular character on the show (maybe the most popular), but Rick's always been the protagonist. The series opened with Rick waking up to this world, learning how to survive and searching for his family. I do think a lot of fans would be upset if Daryl died and that probably makes him untouchable, but I think Rick's more untouchable than Daryl simply because he's the main character. I think Rick will be around as long as Andrew Lincoln wants to play him or until the producers decide to end the show. Hell, I wouldn't be entirely shocked if the producers gave us a series finale where we learn that Rick dreamed the whole zombie apocalypse while he was comatose.
Actually, it's kind of annoying that people are posting that X probably won't happen because of how it went in the comics. Very spoilerish, even if the show is not completely sticking to what happened in the comic.
10-15-14, 12:08 AM
#206
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Re: The Walking Dead (S5E01) -- Season Premiere -- "No Sanctuary" -- 10/12/14
Comic talk>>>>>
I'd be shocked if Carl does not eventually become the main focus of the comics with Rick dying. There's no way you have a character go through everything Carl has gone through by the age of 12 or so and not make him an absolute boss. His TV character is a bit annoying sometimes but Carl has gone through more than anyone else in the books. Shot twice, once through the head losing an eye and leaving an entrance and exit hole in his head. Killing one of the twins when nobody else will, making the tough decisions. Killing Shane and saving his father. Sneaking on a truck by himself and mowing down Negan's men with an automatic weapon. His mom and sister getting killed and then surviving on his own at like age 8-9 while Rick was on the verge of death. Learning from Rick. It all points to a life of pain and character building that will make him a young unstoppable leader. I'm guessing Rick dies in the books when Carl is in his late teens/early 20s, maybe issue 200 or 250 or 300. Kirkmann says he plans at least 300 issues. There in the 130s now.
I'd be shocked if Carl does not eventually become the main focus of the comics with Rick dying. There's no way you have a character go through everything Carl has gone through by the age of 12 or so and not make him an absolute boss. His TV character is a bit annoying sometimes but Carl has gone through more than anyone else in the books. Shot twice, once through the head losing an eye and leaving an entrance and exit hole in his head. Killing one of the twins when nobody else will, making the tough decisions. Killing Shane and saving his father. Sneaking on a truck by himself and mowing down Negan's men with an automatic weapon. His mom and sister getting killed and then surviving on his own at like age 8-9 while Rick was on the verge of death. Learning from Rick. It all points to a life of pain and character building that will make him a young unstoppable leader. I'm guessing Rick dies in the books when Carl is in his late teens/early 20s, maybe issue 200 or 250 or 300. Kirkmann says he plans at least 300 issues. There in the 130s now.
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10-15-14, 07:13 AM
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10-15-14, 07:21 AM
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Re: The Walking Dead (S5E01) -- Season Premiere -- "No Sanctuary" -- 10/12/14
After the first kill the other guys knew how it was going to be done - baseball bat to the back of the head and then slit their throats into the trough. Yet, the other 7 guys just "sat" there waiting for their turn.
Their hands and legs were tied - but dropping down to their sides ruins their plans and buys them some time. If all of them did it, it would create some chaos and maybe you could trip them up and smash a face in with your boots - there were only 2 of them at the time. I wouldn't just "sit" there waiting for it. I survived this long by fighting - why go out like a bitch? Rick may have been the only one who had reason to stay put since he was working on cutting the twist-tie.
Their hands and legs were tied - but dropping down to their sides ruins their plans and buys them some time. If all of them did it, it would create some chaos and maybe you could trip them up and smash a face in with your boots - there were only 2 of them at the time. I wouldn't just "sit" there waiting for it. I survived this long by fighting - why go out like a bitch? Rick may have been the only one who had reason to stay put since he was working on cutting the twist-tie.
10-15-14, 08:10 AM
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Re: The Walking Dead (S5E01) -- Season Premiere -- "No Sanctuary" -- 10/12/14
Mod Note: please put all comic spoilers in tags as a courtesy to others. Also, it is helpful if you put a disclaimer in front of spoiler tags indicating what the spoiler is about (future episodes, comics, etc). Thanks!
10-15-14, 08:29 AM
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Re: The Walking Dead (S5E01) -- Season Premiere -- "No Sanctuary" -- 10/12/14
After the first kill the other guys knew how it was going to be done - baseball bat to the back of the head and then slit their throats into the trough. Yet, the other 7 guys just "sat" there waiting for their turn.
Their hands and legs were tied - but dropping down to their sides ruins their plans and buys them some time. If all of them did it, it would create some chaos and maybe you could trip them up and smash a face in with your boots - there were only 2 of them at the time. I wouldn't just "sit" there waiting for it. I survived this long by fighting - why go out like a bitch? Rick may have been the only one who had reason to stay put since he was working on cutting the twist-tie.
Their hands and legs were tied - but dropping down to their sides ruins their plans and buys them some time. If all of them did it, it would create some chaos and maybe you could trip them up and smash a face in with your boots - there were only 2 of them at the time. I wouldn't just "sit" there waiting for it. I survived this long by fighting - why go out like a bitch? Rick may have been the only one who had reason to stay put since he was working on cutting the twist-tie.
10-15-14, 09:06 AM
#211
Re: The Walking Dead (S5E01) -- Season Premiere -- "No Sanctuary" -- 10/12/14
Can someone help me understand the timing of the shots:
When the guy is at the cabin, and runs into Carol and the baby you hear gun fire and some kind of explosion coming from Terminus.
In the timeline at Terminus where did this come from? is this when they were rounding up Rick & co into the container? (but it seems they were in the container for a good bit because they made some weapons) or was this the flash bang?
If it was a round up / flash bang you would think the Terminus guy would know the procedure and not act so surprised by the sounds.
When the guy is at the cabin, and runs into Carol and the baby you hear gun fire and some kind of explosion coming from Terminus.
In the timeline at Terminus where did this come from? is this when they were rounding up Rick & co into the container? (but it seems they were in the container for a good bit because they made some weapons) or was this the flash bang?
If it was a round up / flash bang you would think the Terminus guy would know the procedure and not act so surprised by the sounds.
10-15-14, 09:20 AM
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That is bullshit. I don't watch any previews/commercials/trailers, etc...Putting a scene after the previews is a complete insult. I had to find out about it on TD.
10-15-14, 09:26 AM
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Re: The Walking Dead (S5E01) -- Season Premiere -- "No Sanctuary" -- 10/12/14
That is bullshit. I don't watch any previews/commercials/trailers, etc...Putting a scene after the previews is a complete insult. I had to find out about it on TD.
10-15-14, 09:39 AM
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Re: The Walking Dead (S5E01) -- Season Premiere -- "No Sanctuary" -- 10/12/14
I think Ty might have done it. I think it's just as rational that his character wouldn't want the others to see how he punched in the dudes skull to a bloody pulp. It looked like he totally lost it on that guy so it probably wasn't pretty.
But yeah, with any show if it doesn't happen on screen there is room for doubt, especially on a show that revels in ultra violence.
I liked some of the campy elements in this episode. The dude on the ground slowly crawling away as the zombies approach and loom over him, instead of just standing up and running. The women screaming as her gut is being eaten out by half a dozen walkers. The dude who got his face chewed and the terrible blood FX.
Good episode, but I always have reservations about this show. Every season has a few great episodes mired by a dozen others that just suck. Like the four/five episodes last season after the group split up, just wandering around. Or the reintroduction of Governor episodes which should never have existed. Hopefully they have tighter plotting this season.
But yeah, with any show if it doesn't happen on screen there is room for doubt, especially on a show that revels in ultra violence.
I liked some of the campy elements in this episode. The dude on the ground slowly crawling away as the zombies approach and loom over him, instead of just standing up and running. The women screaming as her gut is being eaten out by half a dozen walkers. The dude who got his face chewed and the terrible blood FX.
Good episode, but I always have reservations about this show. Every season has a few great episodes mired by a dozen others that just suck. Like the four/five episodes last season after the group split up, just wandering around. Or the reintroduction of Governor episodes which should never have existed. Hopefully they have tighter plotting this season.
10-15-14, 10:14 AM
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Re: The Walking Dead (S5E01) -- Season Premiere -- "No Sanctuary" -- 10/12/14
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And the 2 times the slaughtering process at the trough was interrupted...
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10-15-14, 10:27 AM
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Re: The Walking Dead (S5E01) -- Season Premiere -- "No Sanctuary" -- 10/12/14
Does anyone think that Rick getting talked out of going back to Terminus to finish off the Termites will come back to bite them (so to speak)? Maybe some surviving Termites find and ambush them later in the show for revenge.
(If something like this happens, it would mirror Michonne giving up on hunting down the Governor at the start of Season 4, which ended up being a huge mistake.)
(If something like this happens, it would mirror Michonne giving up on hunting down the Governor at the start of Season 4, which ended up being a huge mistake.)
10-15-14, 10:48 AM
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Re: The Walking Dead (S5E01) -- Season Premiere -- "No Sanctuary" -- 10/12/14
Does anyone think that Rick getting talked out of going back to Terminus to finish off the Termites will come back to bite them (so to speak)? Maybe some surviving Termites find and ambush them later in the show for revenge.
(If something like this happens, it would mirror Michonne giving up on hunting down the Governor at the start of Season 4, which ended up being a huge mistake.)
(If something like this happens, it would mirror Michonne giving up on hunting down the Governor at the start of Season 4, which ended up being a huge mistake.)
10-15-14, 10:50 AM
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Re: The Walking Dead (S5E01) -- Season Premiere -- "No Sanctuary" -- 10/12/14
After the first kill the other guys knew how it was going to be done - baseball bat to the back of the head and then slit their throats into the trough. Yet, the other 7 guys just "sat" there waiting for their turn.
Their hands and legs were tied - but dropping down to their sides ruins their plans and buys them some time. If all of them did it, it would create some chaos and maybe you could trip them up and smash a face in with your boots - there were only 2 of them at the time. I wouldn't just "sit" there waiting for it. I survived this long by fighting - why go out like a bitch? Rick may have been the only one who had reason to stay put since he was working on cutting the twist-tie.
Their hands and legs were tied - but dropping down to their sides ruins their plans and buys them some time. If all of them did it, it would create some chaos and maybe you could trip them up and smash a face in with your boots - there were only 2 of them at the time. I wouldn't just "sit" there waiting for it. I survived this long by fighting - why go out like a bitch? Rick may have been the only one who had reason to stay put since he was working on cutting the twist-tie.
10-15-14, 11:36 AM
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Re: The Walking Dead (S5E01) -- Season Premiere -- "No Sanctuary" -- 10/12/14
After the first kill the other guys knew how it was going to be done - baseball bat to the back of the head and then slit their throats into the trough. Yet, the other 7 guys just "sat" there waiting for their turn.
Their hands and legs were tied - but dropping down to their sides ruins their plans and buys them some time. If all of them did it, it would create some chaos and maybe you could trip them up and smash a face in with your boots - there were only 2 of them at the time. I wouldn't just "sit" there waiting for it. I survived this long by fighting - why go out like a bitch? Rick may have been the only one who had reason to stay put since he was working on cutting the twist-tie.
Their hands and legs were tied - but dropping down to their sides ruins their plans and buys them some time. If all of them did it, it would create some chaos and maybe you could trip them up and smash a face in with your boots - there were only 2 of them at the time. I wouldn't just "sit" there waiting for it. I survived this long by fighting - why go out like a bitch? Rick may have been the only one who had reason to stay put since he was working on cutting the twist-tie.
10-15-14, 12:01 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead (S5E01) -- Season Premiere -- "No Sanctuary" -- 10/12/14
I find it interesting that they allowed the ultra violent trough scene at the beginning of this episode but refused to allow the word "fuck" at the end of last season. Who exactly is being protected from the show at this point? All the little kids who have no business watching in the first place?
It's ok to see multiple guys get hit in the back of the head with a baseball bat and then have their throats cut in gory detail but Heaven forbid they hear a bad word.
It's ok to see multiple guys get hit in the back of the head with a baseball bat and then have their throats cut in gory detail but Heaven forbid they hear a bad word.
10-15-14, 12:07 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead (S5E01) -- Season Premiere -- "No Sanctuary" -- 10/12/14
I think the same thing, but then remember that people usually just sit there and die. Just look at the ISIS videos. Not only do they just sit there and die, but they praise the killers and denounce their family, country, and religion right before the calmly get decapitated.
10-15-14, 01:18 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead (S5E01) -- Season Premiere -- "No Sanctuary" -- 10/12/14
I find it interesting that they allowed the ultra violent trough scene at the beginning of this episode but refused to allow the word "fuck" at the end of last season. Who exactly is being protected from the show at this point? All the little kids who have no business watching in the first place?
It's ok to see multiple guys get hit in the back of the head with a baseball bat and then have their throats cut in gory detail but Heaven forbid they hear a bad word.
It's ok to see multiple guys get hit in the back of the head with a baseball bat and then have their throats cut in gory detail but Heaven forbid they hear a bad word.