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Old 06-26-10, 09:19 PM
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Re: Disney Classic Animation BD Plans: 2009-2010 - Pinocchio, Snow White, Fantasia, B

Originally Posted by The Monkees
I was looking forward to the Black Cauldron SE DVD for a while until I re-watched it recently and realized it really truly sucked. I couldn't believe how boring it was. I enjoyed the animation and it's dark tones, but it was really boring.
I was watching a couple of scenes the other day, and admiring the animation, but you would never know that this film was processed in 'Super Technirama 70' (70mm) - the print Disney techs used for the DVD edition looks really, really bad, the colours are muted, speckles and print nicks are everywhere. I'm very curious to see how the remastered Fall release will look - it's really ashame this isn't getting a bluray release.

Sure the movie is flawed, but it was a very different attempt from the Disney studio to do something against the grain - no songs and dance numbers, the talking animals were kept to a minimum and the overall tone exceedingly bleak and dark - but as a fan of the books, the film version was terribly lacking.

I'm surprised and annoyed that I somehow missed the theatrical release of this, I remember going up to a theatre in Connecticutt visiting a family friend and seeing the Tom Hanks comedy 'Volunteers' and the other two movies showing at the same theatre were 'The Black Cauldron' and 'Day of the Dead'
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Originally Posted by Giles
Sure the movie is flawed, but it was a very different attempt from the Disney studio to do something against the grain - no songs and dance numbers, the talking animals were kept to a minimum and the overall tone exceedingly bleak and dark - but as a fan of the books, the film version was terribly lacking.
Yeah I know, I had no problem with them trying something new. I was actually more interested in it because it was considered a much "darker" film than others, but I just found the film incredibly boring.

On another note, that 4 disc Fantasia/Fantasia 2000 sounds great. I couldn't care less about a DVD copy of 2000 (or the first either, I never watch the DVD versions anyway). I'm looking forward to it.
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Fantasia has always worked better than Nyquill as a sleeping aid. I feel like I should give it another chance but I've never once (out of at least 5 tries) been able to stay awake during the entire thing. I am trying to keep up with all of Disney's Blu-ray releases but I don't know if I can gamble on Fantasia.
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I love Fantasia, but I'm much more excited for that 70 minute documentary on Destino.
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Re: Disney Classic Animation BD Plans: 2009-2010 - Pinocchio, Snow White, Fantasia, B

Originally Posted by NoirFan
From here:

Lame news bolded. Nice to see Destino included, as long as I don't have to download it.
Yeah, I am sick of this BD_Live crap. If they start putting more and more bonus features on BD-Live I will just pass on the releases.
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Originally Posted by Drexl
It sounds like there's no DVD copy of Fantasia 2000. If so, that's kind of disappointing to just about everyone - the camp that would rather have the extras on disc than a DVD of Fantasia, and the camp that wants DVD copies of all their Disney movies.
If the Pixar Blu-rays are any indication, I don't see why Disney can't fit all of the extras from the original Fantasia box set plus new material on one Blu-ray disc.
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Re: Disney Classic Animation BD Plans: 2009-2010 - Pinocchio, Snow White, Fantasia, B

Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel
If the Pixar Blu-rays are any indication, I don't see why Disney can't fit all of the extras from the original Fantasia box set plus new material on one Blu-ray disc.
I think it would fit, but I don't remember how much was actually there, and I don't know how much space the new stuff will use. I do know that if they were to re-compress it with the AVC codec, it would take up less space than it did on the DVD. I hope they at least put Clair de Lune on the disc, preferably with a new HD transfer if it's possible.

Awww, but then we wouldn't have any need for BD-Live.
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Re: Disney Classic Animation BD Plans: 2009-2010 - Pinocchio, Snow White, Fantasia, B

I don't really have interest in downloadable or online extras; I want them on the disc. If the stuff from the Fantasia Anthology is not all included on this BD, I'll just keep my Anthology and buy the BD also. It certainly won't be the first time I've had to keep a Disney DVD when upgrading. Now if they were just going to drop one or two minor things, no biggie, I'd dump the Anthology. But I doubt that.

I'm guessing this will just be the roadshow version; I was hoping for the option to watch the shorter cut without the restored footage, to hear Deems Taylor's actual voice again rather then the redubbed one on the roadshow.

Despite these quibbles, it sounds from the description like what we will get in this set will be excellent. Fantasia is my favorite Disney film so this will be mine quickly upon release.
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I just want Fantasia 2000, but doesn't sound like that's an option. That would make too much sense...
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Re: Disney Classic Animation BD Plans: 2009-2010 - Pinocchio, Snow White, Fantasia, B

Online archived features? Wow, ultra lame.
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Re: Disney Classic Animation BD Plans: 2009-2010 - Pinocchio, Snow White, Fantasia, B

Beauty and the Beast (Diamond Edition) (Future Shop Exclusive Steelbook) (1991) (Blu-ray) - October 5, 2010 - $38.99

Beauty and the Beast (French) (Future Shop Exclusive Steelbook) (1991) (Blu-ray) - October 5,2010 - $38.99

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Re: Disney Classic Animation BD Plans: 2009-2010 - Pinocchio, Snow White, Fantasia, B

links don't work..neither do the ones in the Prince of Persia one...
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Sigh pre-order isn't live yet.
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Re: Disney Classic Animation BD Plans: 2009-2010 - Pinocchio, Snow White, Fantasia, B

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Nice, it kind of matches the Snow White one.
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Re: Disney Classic Animation BD Plans: 2009-2010 - Pinocchio, Snow White, Fantasia, B

The 4 disc Fantasia set sounds like it will be a great one, but it begs the question, is it the original version or the censored one? Personally, I would love to see the original, but I am not sure what Disney will do.

For those who are unfamiliar with what I am talking about read here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fantasi...elease_history
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Why on Earth would you want to see some dated 1930/40s caricatures of step-n-fetchit black Centaurs? It ruins the timelessness of the Pastoral sequence. Disney so did the right thing by cutting them out.
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Re: Disney Classic Animation BD Plans: 2009-2010 - Pinocchio, Snow White, Fantasia, B

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Why on Earth would you want to see some dated 1930/40s caricatures of step-n-fetchit black Centaurs? It ruins the timelessness of the Pastoral sequence. Disney so did the right thing by cutting them out.
I just find that this whole PC culture we are in now, is more or less re-writing history. If it was their originally, regardless of how today's culture has evolved, it should still be there now.

Warner got it right with the Looney Tunes (there is still hope for the Censored Eleven, fuck Ted Turner), slap a disclaimer on it and move on.
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Artistically it completely degrades the work. It has nothing to do with being "PC". Not for me, anyhow.

Besides it hasn't been part of the film for over 40 years now. Not exactly a 90s/00s PC development...

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Re: Disney Classic Animation BD Plans: 2009-2010 - Pinocchio, Snow White, Fantasia, B

Originally Posted by Hokeyboy
Artistically it completely degrades the work. It has nothing to do with being "PC". Not for me, anyhow.

Besides it hasn't been part of the film for over 40 years now. Not exactly a 90s/00s PC development...
Although I disagree, to each his own.

I am really excited for the set regardless. I haven't seen Fantasia in years and I want to see (and hear) what Disney does with the restoration.
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Re: Disney Classic Animation BD Plans: 2009-2010 - Pinocchio, Snow White, Fantasia, B

Fantasia is my favorite film. It is absolutely brilliant in every regard. I know it'll never happen but I've always wanted to see it Uncut.
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Re: Disney Classic Animation BD Plans: 2009-2010 - Pinocchio, Snow White, Fantasia, B

Fantasia is my favorite Disney film, no question. So ahead of its time, it's positively mindblowing. But those crappy black centaurs are the equivalent of a 1940s crappy dated Dreamworks gag.
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I feel that any racial gag from that era is of that era and should be seen as such. What was acceptable then definitely isn't acceptable now but that doesn't mean it should be erased from cinema history. Even throw-away gags like little Sunflower.

But then, I'm one of those cinema nuts that believes all films should be released on home video untampered and as seen in theaters - Warts and all. I know that'll never happen in some cases (usually with the films I love) but I can wish. I'll still buy Fantasia on Blu-Ray and re-watch it over and over again as I did with the DVD, the Laser Disc and the VHS copies I've owned in the past.
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^Not bad!


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