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Totally. It's like the subtle changes they made for the Lion King DVD. But at least you can watch the original version on there cause that new "Morning Report" song was balls...
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Why, doesn't offspring usually have the same last name as their parent? Or should the monster be considered more an invention then a child, and be referred to as The Frankenstein?
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I'm trying to think of what possible reason there is for the NOOOO change. I mean, what was going through his head when he was sitting there thinking.. "hm, this scene needs something."? Is he just trying to make father more like son, because I think Luke screams "NO!" a couple times in the movies.. Could it be some sort of "full circle" thing for Vader because "NOOO" was one of the first things he said as he became Vader and now is one of the last things he said before dying and becoming Anakin again? I just... am at a loss over this one...
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I don't need corrections, just the original versions. ----acutally I don't need them at all. (See Below)
A lot of these small changes seem like they were designed for 3-D purposes. The exploding R2 with lots of light shooting out, a 3-D type staple. Same thing for the rock...probably meant for the rock and R2 to show some depth. Perhaps even Jabba's door, some type of 3-D shot.
Just read this guy's article, makes a lot of sense
http://popwatch.ew.com/2011/09/01/re...-george-lucas/
A lot of these small changes seem like they were designed for 3-D purposes. The exploding R2 with lots of light shooting out, a 3-D type staple. Same thing for the rock...probably meant for the rock and R2 to show some depth. Perhaps even Jabba's door, some type of 3-D shot.
Just read this guy's article, makes a lot of sense
http://popwatch.ew.com/2011/09/01/re...-george-lucas/
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It looks like outraged fans have dropped the Amazon rating down to 2 1/2 stars. Not that anyone gives a shit about Amazon movie ratings, but the amount of 1-star reviews is astounding.
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![](http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/7566/rdoo02.jpg)
I'm not seeing much of a difference? The bottom shot is just brighter and the color is a bit different. Even 3P0 looks different. Doesn't look like anything's changed, or am I missing something?
EDIT: I guess he is reflecting more light off certain surfaces. Huh, nice find...
EDIT: I guess he is reflecting more light off certain surfaces. Huh, nice find...
And can I just say that after what Lucas has done to RotJ, I now have a new appreciation for the original version of the movie before he screwed it up? I honestly can't remember why I was so critical of it in the past.
#2211
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Just read this guy's article, makes a lot of sense
http://popwatch.ew.com/2011/09/01/re...-george-lucas/
http://popwatch.ew.com/2011/09/01/re...-george-lucas/
If Lucas put out the OOT on DVD in 2004 and BluRay in 2011, this debate would be non-existent. I still buy and love Back to the Future, Indiana Jones, Superman, Ghostbusters, Rocky, and nobody is saying its time to move on from those movies that I watched during my childhood a ZILLION times on HBO.
If Lucas put out the OOT in equal quality, all the PT, CloneWars, and EU debate would be a minor debate among SW geeks the same way trekkies debate their EU. The OOT brings in the casual fan, as I don't care about any of the shit outside of 4,5,6.
I have always said that Lucas created the OOT fanbase by not releasing the movies, and its not my fault that I still love those versions the same way I love the other movies I named above. This is ALL George Lucas's fault.
#2212
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Just read this guy's article, makes a lot of sense
http://popwatch.ew.com/2011/09/01/re...-george-lucas/
http://popwatch.ew.com/2011/09/01/re...-george-lucas/
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Just read this guy's article, makes a lot of sense
http://popwatch.ew.com/2011/09/01/re...-george-lucas/
http://popwatch.ew.com/2011/09/01/re...-george-lucas/
#2214
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The way he's doing it will keep him a money flow for the next 15+ years:
• Altered movies in HD - blu-ray (2011)
• Altered movies in HD - digital downloads (2012 or 2013)
• Altered movies in 3D - theaters (2012-2018)
• Altered movies in 3D - blu-ray (2019 or individually released each year through 2019)
• Originals restored in HD to blu-ray - 2020
• Originals restored in 3D to blu-ray - 2022
I'm telling you, this is all part of the plan.
• Altered movies in HD - blu-ray (2011)
• Altered movies in HD - digital downloads (2012 or 2013)
• Altered movies in 3D - theaters (2012-2018)
• Altered movies in 3D - blu-ray (2019 or individually released each year through 2019)
• Originals restored in HD to blu-ray - 2020
• Originals restored in 3D to blu-ray - 2022
I'm telling you, this is all part of the plan.
#2215
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Richard Marquand must be turning over in his grave. Jedi has always been the weak link of the Holy Trilogy, but with each successive release, the movie goes down another peg:
1997: Jedi Rocks, Sarlaac Pit monster changed, New Age music added to ending.
2004: Hayden appears as a force ghost, Jar Jar Binks can be seen in the final montage music
2011: Vader says 'NOOO' twice before killing the Emperor.
I guess will call this the Jedi 7 year rule: Every 7 years Lucas will fuck up Jedi even more.
1997: Jedi Rocks, Sarlaac Pit monster changed, New Age music added to ending.
2004: Hayden appears as a force ghost, Jar Jar Binks can be seen in the final montage music
2011: Vader says 'NOOO' twice before killing the Emperor.
I guess will call this the Jedi 7 year rule: Every 7 years Lucas will fuck up Jedi even more.
#2216
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re: Star Wars
Just read this guy's article, makes a lot of sense
http://popwatch.ew.com/2011/09/01/re...-george-lucas/
http://popwatch.ew.com/2011/09/01/re...-george-lucas/
And before you go all "but sports are real and star wars isn't", stop and ask yourself: how are a bunch of millionaires playing a children's backyard game any different than a bunch of millionaires playing dress-up and making a movie?
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Richard Marquand must be turning over in his grave. Jedi has always been the weak link of the Holy Trilogy, but with each successive release, the movie goes down another peg:
1997: Jedi Rocks, Sarlaac Pit monster changed, New Age music added to ending.
2004: Hayden appears as a force ghost, Jar Jar Binks can be seen in the final montage music
2011: Vader says 'NOOO' twice before killing the Emperor.
I guess will call this the Jedi 7 year rule: Every 7 years Lucas will fuck up Jedi even more.
1997: Jedi Rocks, Sarlaac Pit monster changed, New Age music added to ending.
2004: Hayden appears as a force ghost, Jar Jar Binks can be seen in the final montage music
2011: Vader says 'NOOO' twice before killing the Emperor.
I guess will call this the Jedi 7 year rule: Every 7 years Lucas will fuck up Jedi even more.
Now if Lucas went back and erased them from the movie, that would be a change I could get behind.
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Wasn't sure if this NY Times article had been posted or not.
http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/20...n-of-the-jedi/
If so, oh well, again for your reading pleasure.
http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/20...n-of-the-jedi/
If so, oh well, again for your reading pleasure.
#2224
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Ewoks is just the litmus test to know if you'd hit puberty yet.
Cause if you weren't a fan of them, you were now thinking of girls in a totally different light.
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