X-Men Origins: Wolverine
04-29-09, 10:55 PM
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Two stars from Ebert. I found this interesting:
"He never says anything witty, insightful or very intelligent; his utterances are limited to the vocalization of primitive forces: anger, hurt, vengeance, love, hate, determination." Those are primitive huh? I'm gonna step out and say Ebert likes the modern passive, feminine man... (he hated 300 for the same reasons here) Wolverine is not that kind of modern man, he's a man's man, and that's why people like him. We like those "primitive" character traits because they're real and true. There I said it.
"He never says anything witty, insightful or very intelligent; his utterances are limited to the vocalization of primitive forces: anger, hurt, vengeance, love, hate, determination." Those are primitive huh? I'm gonna step out and say Ebert likes the modern passive, feminine man... (he hated 300 for the same reasons here) Wolverine is not that kind of modern man, he's a man's man, and that's why people like him. We like those "primitive" character traits because they're real and true. There I said it.
04-29-09, 11:14 PM
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Re: Wolverine - Solo
Yet he enjoyed Dirty Harry, which is clearly a model for Wolverine. He's also quite fond of James Bond, who is more civilized than Wolverine, but certainly not a feminine man.
04-30-09, 12:02 AM
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04-30-09, 01:00 AM
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04-30-09, 07:45 AM
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Re: Wolverine - Solo
No he didn't.
No he didn't. He gave a mixed review to the first, and positives to two and three.
EDIT: Just saw Sierra's post, durnit I should read replies first...
There's a HUGE difference between not being a "passive, feminine man" (which you claim Ebert just adores) and being a one-note caricature, a once fully realized character reduced to nothing more but stock cliche and undercooked emotional range. If grunting, fighting, sweating and scowling is what you consider being a "man's man", then you might as well just hang out at your local bathhouse. 
I agree with Ebert's rating, if not quite his assessment.
Well, I don't know about X3, but he definetly disliked the previous two.
EDIT: Just saw Sierra's post, durnit I should read replies first...
Originally Posted by Artman
He never says anything witty, insightful or very intelligent; his utterances are limited to the vocalization of primitive forces: anger, hurt, vengeance, love, hate, determination." Those are primitive huh? I'm gonna step out and say Ebert likes the modern passive, feminine man... (he hated 300 for the same reasons here) Wolverine is not that kind of modern man, he's a man's man, and that's why people like him. We like those "primitive" character traits because they're real and true. There I said it.
I agree with Ebert's rating, if not quite his assessment.
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04-30-09, 10:14 AM
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Re: Wolverine - Solo
I went to a free screening. Without giving anything away I'll just say it felt very undercooked. Its an origins story and leaves so many unanswered questions. So this has been a steady decline since Singer left. I will says its a hair better than X3 which is the Return of the Jedi of the series. So This is the Phantom Menace actually more of an Attack of the Clones. I'm done with Wolverine, time to move on Marvel.
04-30-09, 10:23 AM
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Re: Wolverine - Solo
This multiple bonus scene after the credits bit sounds like a crock of shit - How are you to know going in, which version you're seeing? If there was a way to identify the prints, then I would be more inclined to maybe go more than once at different theatres, but chances are I'd just see the same one three times = fail.
04-30-09, 12:26 PM
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Why be upset about multiple endings after the credits? Those scenes are more like easter eggs for people who sit around for the credits, rather than hitting the door at lightning speed. I'm sure the DVD will have them all, and lots of spoilers for them on the net. Anyway got my tickets for tonight, so just waiting.
04-30-09, 12:32 PM
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Stinkeye you are dead-on-spot on that the Fox should know that this movie is going to tank after week one.
Marvel movie-projects should have warning label like buyer beware for now on!
Intill they can grow some balls and take more control in the making of these flims enough said.
Marvel movie-projects should have warning label like buyer beware for now on!
Intill they can grow some balls and take more control in the making of these flims enough said.
04-30-09, 07:51 PM
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Having the Marvel company instead of Fox take control isn't the answer. Getting writers and directors with actual vision is the answer.
04-30-09, 09:26 PM
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DVDtalk review is up: http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/37080...ins-wolverine/
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04-30-09, 09:48 PM
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04-30-09, 10:27 PM
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Re: Wolverine - Solo
DVDtalk review is up: http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/37080...ins-wolverine/
04-30-09, 10:45 PM
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I thought it was such a piece of shit, that when I see anything other than a scathing review, I have to go into conspiracy mode and pretend that Fox is buying off positive reviews - it's the only way they'll make sense to me. FWIW, I didn't care for X3, and I thought this was much worse.
04-30-09, 11:13 PM
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I thought it was such a piece of shit, that when I see anything other than a scathing review, I have to go into conspiracy mode and pretend that Fox is buying off positive reviews - it's the only way they'll make sense to me. FWIW, I didn't care for X3, and I thought this was much worse.
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05-01-09, 07:41 AM
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Re: Wolverine - Solo
Im not sure which thread is going to get the most traffic, so I will post my thoughts in both.
I saw it last night, and was overall entertained. There are changes that will freak out the geeks (and I was hearing it last night) but it fits in well with the story that was presented in X1-3. I would have preferred more screen time for Deadpool and Gambit, but what there was, was solid.
I did have one peeve though:
Also it was good to see
As far as the multiple endings, we had
So lets say this is a hit, do you think there will be an Origins 2, maybe taking place in
, or a film showing Logan after X3?
I saw it last night, and was overall entertained. There are changes that will freak out the geeks (and I was hearing it last night) but it fits in well with the story that was presented in X1-3. I would have preferred more screen time for Deadpool and Gambit, but what there was, was solid.
I did have one peeve though:
Spoiler:
Also it was good to see
Spoiler:
As far as the multiple endings, we had
Spoiler:
So lets say this is a hit, do you think there will be an Origins 2, maybe taking place in
Spoiler:
05-01-09, 10:07 AM
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05-01-09, 10:18 AM
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