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Sean O'Hara

That's the sci-fi conception of a cyborg. The actual definition is someone with mechanical or electronic body augmentation. A more restrictive definition says that the augmentation needs to provide feedback to the person's brain. Luke's hand does that -- Luke flinches when the droid pokes his hand at the end of Empire. He's a cyborg.

Ranger

I always thought Andy would be playing a villain. He'd be a great Yuuzhan Vong.

Rumors have been all over the place.

I thought Luke was a captive? Or being hunted by Sith and Empire?

joe_b

Mike86

I don't really mind if the film is somewhat similar to A New Hope I guess. It seems like a good way to re-start the franchise and is better than the alternative of it being too similar to the prequels and I'm sure they don't want to start with darker themes right off the bat like the original sequels (more The Empire Strikes Back).

As for Tatooine even though there are other planets I'd like to see explored I think that's going to show up often just because its where everything all started and like someone mentioned about roots I think that play will always tie the universe (or at least the Skywalker family) together.

Josh-da-man

I've got a bad feeling about this.

Kal-El

I seriously doubt JJ would go that story route or that KK would even green light that. You'd be alienating pretty much all of Star Wars fans at that point, even more so than all 3 prequel films combined did.

So yeah, I don't believe it.

Mike86

Honestly I have a hard time believing that rumor is true. Abrams has to know that pulling shit like that will piss people off. That's George Lucas prequel trilogy bullshit if its true.

hanshotfirst1138

I think Cronenberg is so intellectually idiosyncratic that he'd have trouble with any major studio film. I just don't think he could deal with the demands of making a blockbuster. Hardly a bad thing. I'm amazed he manages to get funding for most of his projects, to be honest.

Wasn't David Lynch seriously talked about for ROTJ? Wasn't Marquand basically picked so that Lucas could sort of have more creative control, as well as because of the Guild controversies?

Incidentally, apparently Paul Verhoeven, who of course later went on to have a long career making sci-fi action movies, was apparently approached based on the strength of his Dutch work, I think Soldier of Orange in particular. Apparently, they were more reticent after seeing Turkish Delight, Verhoeven say he thinks maybe they were concerned that "the Jedi would start fucking right away." Still probably would've been better than the Ewoks.

Shannon Nutt

You are correct sir. Even "The Six Million Dollar Man" is a cyborg...in fact, it's based on a novel CALLED "Cyborg," so there you go.

Shazam

Maybe Luke's first line will be "Come with me if you want to live."

RocShemp

"Hey, Palpatine! Here is Darth Zero! NOW plain Zero!"

Dr. DVD

There are so many rumors that contradict each other on this movie that I am starting to think none of them are true.

islandclaws

^ Bingo. I'll bet word from on-high has been to spread A LOT of disinformation so no one knows what the hell is happening until it hits theaters.

thebunk

Umm, doesn't that sound a bit too close to a previous Abrams property....

fumanstan

Felicity?

stvn1974

I don't believe any of the rumors either. Remember when the bullshit stories about Khan being the villain in Star Trek Into Darkness came out? People overreacted and we got some dude named John Harrison instead.

hanshotfirst1138

That's classic Abrams MO.

joe_b

These rumor sites are claiming they've all been getting the same info from several sources and have corroborated it with leaked concept art (which they refuse to post) showing the scenes in question. But honestly, how hard would it be for Abrams to hire someone to leak phony/dated artwork to multiple parties using different aliases. It means nothing until we see the movie. I do love how Badass Digest posted an editorial accusing the guy from the other site of "crossing a line" by running the report about Luke. Like these sites give a crap about anything but clickbait.

taffer

Regarding the whole prophecy thing, my take on it is that the Force used to be balanced. There were thousands of Jedi and thousands of Sith. Then the Sith War happened and all the Sith were killed off except for Bane. (Darth Bane is canon because he is mentioned in the Clone Wars animated series.) Bane is the one who introduced the Rule of Two. The ancient Sith killed themselves off with in-fighting, so the Rule of Two was supposed to prevent that from happening again since there would always be only two Sith, the master and his apprentice. The apprentice would learn and grow and eventually become more powerful than his master and kill him. Then the apprentice becomes the master and takes on his own apprentice to repeat the cycle. That way the dark side keeps getting stronger and stronger as each cycle would have more powerful Sith.

Anyway, as for the balance, that was tipped when the Sith were all killed off. Thousands of Jedi and only two Sith means the balance scales are way off. The Jedi thought the prophecy of bringing balance to the Force would be a good thing. Well, prophecies aren't always good, you know. This was a bad prophecy, for them at least. Anakin did bring balance to the Force when he killed the Jedi. Only two Jedi survived, Obi-Wan and Yoda. Now there are two Jedi and two Sith. The Force is balanced again.

However, the prophecy did not say it would be permanent balance, only that the Chosen One would bring balance. Anakin did bring balance, but nowhere was it stated that he would bring permanent balance. The scales were again tipped when Obi-Wan, Vader, and the Emperor died. Luke is the sole Jedi and the Sith are extinct. (Or maybe the Sith aren't extinct depending on how Episode VII goes.)

Edit to add: I just thought of something. Regarding my earlier statement about the balance with two Jedi (Obi-Wan and Yoda) and two Sith (Vader and Sidious), well what if there were actually three of each instead of two? The new Rebels animated series has a main character who is supposedly a Jedi who survived the purge. That makes three Jedi. So maybe a third long-lost Sith will be revealed in Episode VII after all...

joe_b

Yes, this makes sense... except Lucas himself stated on video (I think the clip is in one of the Mr. Plinkett reviews) that Vader destroying the Emperor was the fulfillment of the prophecy. By destroying the Sith (including himself) he brought the Force back into balance. It's as though the Jedi (or George) couldn't grasp what the hell "bring balance" actually meant.

"Is he not to destroy the Sith and bring balance to the Force?"

Well, technically he did both -- just not in that order.

taffer

Well, considering Lucas also gave us things such as ewoks and Jar Jar and a 10 year old Baby Vader, I am pretty sure Lucas has been getting high off his own supply. I prefer my own theory.

Plus, we know Lucas just makes this shit up as he goes. He says one thing now, and five minutes later he will contradict it by saying something else.

Sean O'Hara

I've always thought that Luke did give in to the Dark Side after Vader taunted him about Liea. He pulls back after he cuts off Vader's hand, but as Yoda said, "Once you start down the Dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny." If JJ follows up on that, Luke could be dealing with the Dark Side without being fully evil himself.

milo bloom

"Balance" doesn't necessarily mean a scale with two equal weights, one on each side. Instead, think of balance like an ecosystem, a water system with the right kinds of plants, the right kinds of fish, the right kinds of insects, that's a "balanced" ecosystem. Now, introduce a new predator, or a fungus that starts to choke out all the life, that ecosystem is now "out of balance". In Star Wars, that's what the Sith are, they're the invasive carp species, or the toxic fungal bloom throwing off the system. When they were removed, that's restoring "balance".

taffer

The invasive species example doesn't really work. The Force isn't just a small ecosystem that's one small part of a whole. The Force is everything. It is life itself. The dark side has always existed as part of the Force just as the light side has. Good and evil are necessary opposites, like hot and cold or solid and liquid.