musick

I'll wait to visit the special edition of it

Timber

I've retconned that in my head to be him toying with Luke. We didn't know at that point that he was a Sith. We hadn't even heard that word before. So when we see that he does indeed have powers far greater than those of Vader we're surprised. Of course this all requires you to believe that Yoda never told Luke that Palps whipped his ass.

nando820

When is shooting scheduled to complete ?

stvn1974

"The Force Awakens...Then Saw The Prequels And The Special Editions And Went Back To Sleep"

joe_b

Even "The Ancient Fear" sounded more like a proper Star Wars title, but I can live with it. Still a better title than "Attack of the Clones".

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The latest report on MakingStarWars.net sheds a bit more light on why the title could make sense in the context of the film:

http://makingstarwars.net/2014/11/st...uke-skywalker/


The wrap party was held on Saturday.

taffer

I never imagined that the Rebel Alliance was formed 20 years before A New Hope. That would be a really looooong war... I always imagined the Rebel Alliance was formed just a few years before A New Hope.


It's very possible that the person Leia remembered wasn't her real mother. Bail Organa or someone could have told her a lie or something.


Huh?


Vader uses a red lightsaber...

It was always assumed blue and green were the good colors and red was the evil. I have never seen anyone assume the Sith didn't use lightsabers until this post...


They never said it was near completed. It could have just started construction. Who knows.

RocShemp

Is Bruce Willis in this one?

taffer

He is in Episode VIII: Yippee Kay Yea Motherfucker

Timber

Well they do have an academy so they've been around for quite some time. Although it always confused me why a group of terrorists would have an academy. Was it like the Al Qaeda videos?

Lord Zarak

I thought the Academy was for the Empire. It was there that Biggs met up with some contact from the Rebellion and joined them instead.

Anubis2005X

Star Wars: The Force Waker

Timber

That would make the most sense but Luke says to Obi that "I don't like the Empire, I hate it" so that would lead me to believe that he wants not part of it.

Coral

I liked the title - I think it sounds good. The movie on the other hand was a total piece of shit - but the title is decent.

Don't like "The Force Awakens". Wouldn't "Star Wars: Awakened Force" sound better?

Hokeyboy

I had a ton of issues with the PT, but the movie titles themselves never even entered the discussion.

Ranger

I like the title!

joe_b

Not the Alliance, per se -- but at the very least a dissenting faction within the senate. Cutting out Mon Mothma, the leader of the entire Rebellion, was just a wasted opportunity to provide some needed continuity.

Which would only serve to confuse the audience and remove all poignancy from that scene. Leia is clearly meant to be referring to her birth mother. Probably the biggest oversight in RotS in my opinion. Padme could have easily smuggled Leia into Alderaan and spent some time with her before succumbing to whatever bullshit illness Lucas invented. Imagine the emotion of Padme knowing her life was ending and asking Organa to look after her daughter and keep her safe. Again, opportunities for human drama where just rushed past.

Watch the first fifteen seconds:

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You can explain it away as the Force linking Luke and Yoda across the galaxy, but I always envisioned Obi-Wan and/or Yoda looked after the infant Luke for a brief period on Dagobah before handing him off to Owen and Beru.

And Vader was also clearly established as a former Jedi. As Timber mentioned, the word Sith is never referenced in the OT... and Palpatine didn't really appear to have an affinity for the lightsaber in RotJ.

Okay, we see the skeletal structure of the station has been formed less than three years after the plans were finalized in Episode II. I know the technology/manpower of the Empire grew significantly, but the fact that Death Star II was nearly completed in three or four years (maybe less) makes the idea it took seven times that long to get the original up and running a bit... strange. But I'm not a space contractor, so what do I know?

HN

come on J.J., get with the fad -- should be The Force RISES

Lord Zarak

You can hate a company, but if they're the only employer in town, what choice do you have?

Kal-El

I'm actually starting to like it. It's different in that unlike "A New Hope" or "The Phantom Menace" which signify something more...symbolic, this one denotes something more active. That something is giong to happen.

DthRdrX

I actually like it as well. Something different.

DthRdrX

I always figured the Academy was just like a famous private school for pilots. It may or may not have worked within, and served up, pilots to the Empire but was still considered very prestigious to go there. This would explain Biggs putting in his time and then joining the rebellion later on.

Luke even mentioned at one point to Ben that although he hated it there was nothing he could do against the Empire. He had just accepted it. The Academy was a foot in the door to something, be it Empire or Rebellion.

Double_Oh_7

Already done. In fact, the press release announcing the end of shooting is where they slipped in the nugget about the title.

Guru Askew

I'd like to see an PT hater explain how the OT titles were good and the PT ones were bad.

A New Hope is just generic and not very memorable. The Empire Strikes Back makes some sense though their act of striking back is pretty much done once they leave Hoth but Return of the Jedi is nonsensical considering Luke never went anywhere though you could make the case that it refers to the Jedi Order in general or even Anakin Skywalker.

The Phantom Menace would actually probably be the best title if not for the fact that Palpatine's manipulations don't really feel like the core of the film. Attack of the Clones makes only slightly more sense than Jedi in the context of the story and Revenge of the Sith has always been nothing more than a fanservice callback to Jedi and its original title.

The Force Awakens actually manages to be even less-interesting than A New Hope though.

They're all kinda lame. All 7 of them.

stvn1974

What is this " A New Hope" that people mention? Star Wars, Empire Strikes Back and Return Of The Jedi are the only real films.

DthRdrX

The Empire Strikes Back is referring to the Empire's actions as a result of the Rebel victory at the conclusion of A New Hope. Between the Battle of Hoth, Han Solo being taken to Jabba, and Luke failing against Vader the title works great.

Return of The Jedi is in reference to the Jedi coming back into power, as result of Vader and the Emperor's death.

Attack of the Clones is the only really bad one IMO. Too cartoonish.