Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fisher
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens (12/18/2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fi
Although Tattoine has already done the twin sun thing, I guess something like a "red planet" like Mars would be possible.
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens (12/18/2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fi
Totally hear what you're saying on different colors, etc. Don't see why that's not been done - maybe cause star wars has always had more recognizable terrain. Purple grass and weird stuff is more the realm of star trek?
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens (12/18/2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fi
One thing we haven't seen too much of so far are new aliens/creatures. I know the prequels went way overboard with goofy CGI aliens and not enough normal people you could relate to, but I still hope we get some cool aliens in these things. Hopefully with more of an imaginative cool/scary factor and less of the goofy stuff to appeal to 5 year olds.
And animatronic. We could do awesome things with Harry and the Hendersons almost 30 years ago, so lets see some of that. If they can make BB8 work, anything is possible.
And animatronic. We could do awesome things with Harry and the Hendersons almost 30 years ago, so lets see some of that. If they can make BB8 work, anything is possible.
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens (12/18/2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fi
What terrains haven't been used to make a planet we haven't seen?
Desert (Tattoine)
Snow (Hoth)
Jungle (Dagobah)
Forest (Endor)
Gaseous (Bespin)
Water (Kamino)
Volcanic (Mustafar)
Industrial (Coruscant)
Really what else is there that we haven't already seen? Mountainous? That's all I can think of.
Desert (Tattoine)
Snow (Hoth)
Jungle (Dagobah)
Forest (Endor)
Gaseous (Bespin)
Water (Kamino)
Volcanic (Mustafar)
Industrial (Coruscant)
Really what else is there that we haven't already seen? Mountainous? That's all I can think of.
I was thinking about this not too long ago, and it occurred to me that the planets in the OT were sort of supposed to correspond with a sort of golden age of science fiction conception of our solar system -- Tattooine = Mercury, Dagobah = Venus, Bespin= Jupiter, Hoth = Pluto.
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#6885
Re: Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens (12/18/2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fi
^ That planet (Felucia) looked really fake in the movie... like something from Burton's Alice in Wonderland. Surprisingly, it wasn't entirely done in CG.
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Abrams should have his design department go totally nuts and make a completely alien world that doesn't look like anything. Who is working designs on this? I assume Neville Page is working on some more creatures? Ralph McQuarrie is obviously out
, any word on who's working designs for this? I guess you could go with some old sci-fi standbys like an underground or underwater society, or do a nutso Jack Kirby cosmic thing, though I don't think Abrams has that much visual flair.
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens (12/18/2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fi
I forget where I read it, but someone was talking about how even in sci fi, some things stay "normal" for the audience to feel comfortable (a sentiment that extends way beyond just sci fi). Audiences get weirded out by weird shit like a green sky if it's in the movie for too long. Plus going nuts with the colors just for the sake of it isn't really the key to creating an interesting new world.
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens (12/18/2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fi
Abrams should have his design department go totally nuts and make a completely alien world that doesn't look like anything. Who is working designs on this? I assume Neville Page is working on some more creatures? Ralph McQuarrie is obviously out
, any word on who's working designs for this? I guess you could go with some old sci-fi standbys like an underground or underwater society, or do a nutso Jack Kirby cosmic thing, though I don't think Abrams has that much visual flair.
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens (12/18/2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fi
That's the first time I've ever heard Star Wars described as having a documentary feel.
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens (12/18/2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fi
I didn't know the OT had William Friedkin there for that documentary feel.
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens (12/18/2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fi
They should do a crossover between Star Wars and The Office since they both have a documentary feel.
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens (12/18/2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fi
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Disagree it felt at all like a documentary, like 0%, but agree that the OT had a certain authenticity to its locales, something completely eradicated in the PT.
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DISTRICT 9 had a documentary feel, not STAR WARS.
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens (12/18/2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fi
He probably heard George Lucas say that in some interview somewhere. Lucas is always saying stupid shit like that.
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens (12/18/2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fi
I don't know where to begin with you guys. The verite, immediate, documentary style of Star Wars is fundamental to its execution and why it wowed audiences in 1977. Compare it to the formalism of Fantastic Planet or 2001:ASO. The way the script and editing elides material, the way the story begins in medias res, the decision by the filmmaker to construct an elaborate fantasy set or location and then shoot tight set ups that don't show off the expensive "toys". Lucas clashed with the director of photography and executives endlessly regarding coverage of the sets.
Friedken is a good comparison. Lucas shot his scifi flick like it was the French Connection. You are all so accustomed to this now that you don't notice it.
Friedken is a good comparison. Lucas shot his scifi flick like it was the French Connection. You are all so accustomed to this now that you don't notice it.
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens (12/18/2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fi
I wouldn't say that Star Wars had a documentary feel, but Star Wars definitely was a break from most sci-fi by showing a lived-in universe that was imperfect, had technology that was still troublesome, things worn out, frayed around the edges, etc.
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens (12/18/2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fi
I don't know where to begin with you guys. The verite, immediate, documentary style of Star Wars is fundamental to its execution and why it wowed audiences in 1977. Compare it to the formalism of Fantastic Planet or 2001:ASO. The way the script and editing elides material, the way the story begins in medias res, the decision by the filmmaker to construct an elaborate fantasy set or location and then shoot tight set ups that don't show off the expensive "toys". Lucas clashed with the director of photography and executives endlessly regarding coverage of the sets.
Friedken is a good comparison. Lucas shot his scifi flick like it was the French Connection. You are all so accustomed to this now that you don't notice it.
Friedken is a good comparison. Lucas shot his scifi flick like it was the French Connection. You are all so accustomed to this now that you don't notice it.
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens (12/18/2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fi
Documentary is just the wrong term for it is all, nobody's disagreeing that it's notably different than most Sci-fi of the era. And it's something sorely missing in the PT.