Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fisher
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens (12/18/2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fi
Yeah I agree. Fisher gets a lot of shit but in general women in Hollywood only get their shot while they're in their primes whereas men don't have that problem as much. Couple that with Fisher's personal issues and I'm fairly impressed with how she looks for the new film. That said I still expect Leia's role to probably not be very large.
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens (12/18/2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fi
If the story, acting and direction are good then this movie might stand a chance.
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens (12/18/2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fi
She was cute in her teens and early twenties, but the older she gets, the more she looks like her father than her mother. Unfortunately. And starting to sound like him too apparently.
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If this is legit (and I believe it is) I don't think the fanbase is gonna stand for the focus on the new characters over the old. Even if it's great in execution (which is the big unknown after reading the synopsis) the nerd rage will overshadow any reasonable discussion of the movie's merits.
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens (12/18/2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fi
I waited 32 years to see Luke freaking Skywalker get 5 minutes of screen time? Fuck that bullshit! Who knows if Mark Hamill will even be alive when filming of the sequel begins.
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens (12/18/2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fi
Sounds like they are using the OT characters to best serve the film, rather than just having them as your standard cameo nods. I really like the 'search for Skywalker' subplot (if true, sounds like it is)... if the next one has him in a larger role that's cool.
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens (12/18/2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fi
If that's the way they're going w/ it. It sounds like they're properly establishing a mythology for these characters to live in and feel more natural for the drama. I just want a good movie. i don't give a fuck if Luke is a tease in this film for the rest of the films coming after narratively.
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens (12/18/2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fi
I haven't read any spoilers but I am assuming someone turns to the darkside who will be our villain, and some Skywalker/Solo kid will be the Protagonist and we will follow their journey for 3 movies while we see lightsaber battles, space battles, the force, etc. Sounds like familiar territory to me.
I kind of look at Rocky 6 as a model for what may come of the new Star Wars movie. You had Rocky & Paulie 30 years after the original movie, and it was a good movie. Was it great? No, simply because its impossible to recreate that magic because you are recycling similar themes from the original and that is usually why sequels and prequels are mostly inferior. Rocky 6 had a good story, good acting, and good direction, but it wasn't a great movie. It was enjoyable and redeemed the franchise after the horrible Rocky 5, so I think the ST can redeem the franchise after the PT in that respect.
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens (12/18/2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fi
Judging from the fanbase and the amount of Star Wars material out there, I'd say somewhat. Not that the original Star Wars had a particularly original story, though for the time the setting definitely was.
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens (12/18/2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fi
Comparing Rocky to Star Wars? Rocky was a story about one guy. Star Wars can really be about anything in that universe. I'm not saying any of these new movies will be great, but it's not really the same thing.
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens (12/18/2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fi
Godfather I to Godfather III was 18 years.
Rocky 1 to Rocky 6 was 30 years.
The Hustler to The Color of Money was 25 years.
#7341
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens (12/18/2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fi
I agree but in some ways it is still a bit of a downer as the fact that the original cast was returning was a pretty big selling point for the film. I get the sense that for Original Trilogy characters we'll mostly see Han and Chewie in action in the film. Probably R2D2 and C3PO too. I mostly was interested for Luke so if he's not in this one much it does sort of suck but if he's a bigger part of Episodes VIII and IX I won't be too upset.
#7342
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens (12/18/2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fi
Let's keep in mind that originally the OT actors had little more than cameos in this new trilogy...it was JJ that wanted to expand their roles and make them a bigger part of the story.
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens (12/18/2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fi
I give JJ & Kathleen Kennedy credit as they have not really marketed these movies with the OT characters, and they are clearly telling us that the new characters will be the main stars. I am not one for spoilers but I think its better if the fanbase knows that Luke, Leia and Han are playing minor roles (even if they are relevant to the plot) so fans don't expect more screentime from them.
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens (12/18/2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fi
Cameo's would have been a total insult to the fans, especially if they marketed them heavily before the movie the same way Lucas marketed Suited Vader yet he was only in Episode 3 for a few minutes.
I give JJ & Kathleen Kennedy credit as they have not really marketed these movies with the OT characters, and they are clearly telling us that the new characters will be the main stars. I am not one for spoilers but I think its better if the fanbase knows that Luke, Leia and Han are playing minor roles (even if they are relevant to the plot) so fans don't expect more screentime from them.
I give JJ & Kathleen Kennedy credit as they have not really marketed these movies with the OT characters, and they are clearly telling us that the new characters will be the main stars. I am not one for spoilers but I think its better if the fanbase knows that Luke, Leia and Han are playing minor roles (even if they are relevant to the plot) so fans don't expect more screentime from them.
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Re: Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens (12/18/2015, Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fi
If they are gonna kill Han, Id prefer if they did it like in Carlitos Way. Have Han be in some major dangerous situation and as he thinks he is about to get away, Greedo's grandson steps out from nowhere and shoots him.
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