brayzie

I disagree.
The space battle scenes look great and make sense since the franchise is about war.
Force Awakens was a retread of ANH but seems like most people still liked it a lot.
The Last Jedi was polarizing but it was a success and well received by critics.
If TROS ends up close to what Jay G. describes I'd actually be happy. It makes Rey feel less like a rando and ties more closely to the OT and gives the clone wars more significance rather than just an excuse to justify a throwaway line in ANH.

tanman

Okay so is anyone looking forward to this?

I'm really REALLY trying to stay positive here and trying to get excited, after all this is episode IX. This is a big deal. But I can't find anyone in my circles that's really excited for this. We were all pretty jaded after TLJ. But I'm still reserving final judgment until this movie comes out. Even here it seems like noone is really excited about this.

story

Yes, I am. I've really enjoyed the new movies and I'm interested to see how the story wraps up. I think the characters are likeable, I'm rooting for them.

Not in the same way I was rooting for Luke, Han, and Leia, but I'm okay with that. I think that as a kid, I wanted to look up to these adults and cheer them on to save the galaxy. Now as an adult older than Rey, Finn, and Poe, as well as older than OT Luke, Leia, and probably Han, I'm having high Hope's for the next generation to do what needs to be done.

And I really don't care if that comes off weird. But I think who I am as a person now, especially kid younger than protagonists versus fellow adult but older, does matter. I remember when I realized I was older than most professional baseball players on the field, it changed the game for me. I used to be the youngest person at work, sometimes the only person under 30. Later I watched a few younger people slip in. Now I'm 40 and the boss of people older and younger than me. Each stage has impacted how I see work and life and the people around me. I think it's impacted how I see movie characters.

I'll be there opening night in IMAX with my spouse, the next day in Dolby Cinema with my best friend from high school, and want to catch it once more before Christmas in IMAX 3D. Going again with my oldest kid after Christmas, too. And my guess is, thanks to A-List, I'll go at least one more time.

Star Wars is my thing. Always will be. Not a lot of budget for all the fun extras. Not a lot of time to read all the books and comics. And not a lot of interest in all the family theory YouTube stuff. But I love it.

brayzie

I'm looking forward to this solely because I want to see who and what the damn The Knights of Ren aka Jedi Killers are. What's their story?

That's the only hook for me. Nothing in the last film had me dying to find out what would happen next. Who were Rey's parents? Nobodies. Mystery solved.
Where did Snoke come from? His endgame? He's dead. And since we know the Emperor is coming back, it'll probably just be revealed that he was merely a puppet.
What about Finn's story? Don't care.
Poe? He's a really good pilot. That's it.

The three main characters in the OT had a better dynamic going on. There was a love triangle in addition to the normal story of what happens next to them.
Will Leia choose Han or Luke? Is Han going to be trapped in carbonite forever or make it out alive?

Brack

The Mandalorian is about as universally loved as TLJ was universally hated. Neither is true.

tanman

I never said TLJ was universally hated.

But show me where the haters are for the Mandalorian.

Shannon Nutt

That beats the 2:35 run time we thought it was going to be, especially since at least 5 of those minutes will be end credits.

Shannon Nutt

Well, they need to pick clips that are exciting, but reveal virtually nothing about the plot. The only plot-detailed dialogue here was that Rey, Poe, Finn, etc. were referred to as "fugitives."

Also, name a Star Wars movie WITHOUT "clunky" dialogue. It's a kids' movie - we always seem to forget that, because we grew up with the franchise and keep hoping it will grow up with us (it never will completely).

Rob V

Same... it's all just so fucking cliche' anymore. I can generally say the lines, verbatim, before they do. But I find that to be the case with most shows anymore.

I am looking forward to this movie but very cautious and not expecting the trilogy to truly be redeemed.

Draven

Beyond excited. Seeing it with my wife on the Friday of opening weekend (couldn’t get tickets for Thursday unless I wanted to sit in the front row) and planning on going back with my son again that weekend. Everything I’ve seen looks awesome.

DWilson

Have you timed end credits lately? Probably at least ten, though I know at least one film (can't remember which) when I checked the "remaining minutes" on my player was close to twenty.

Rival11

Damn, Daisy Ridley is all teeth huh?

story

And then the credits name the Lord of the Rings fan club for the next hour.

I liked the clip JJ showed last night on Colbert. I think the "They fly now" lines are funny.

Brack

And I never said there were “haters”, just making a point that I think this board has a horrible track record for pretending to know what Star Wars fans like or hate. But yeah, a crazy notion. Whatever.

Draven

I have been told here that I am not a true Star Wars fan (because they don't like XYZ Star Wars thing).

Brack

I think we’re all Star Wars fans in this thread, and I’ve never read anything you’ve written to question that.

Obi-Wanma

Nobody hates Star Wars as much as Star Wars fans.

lopper

Yes but not nearly as much as I was for the first two, and it has a whole lot to do with what we've seen so far. It looks like another quippy JJ blockbuster.

Paul_SD

A civilization that has people who can move things with their minds, fly across the galaxy with speed and ease, and has made (with some regularity) moon sized devices that can destroy planets- has apparently only just now discovered jet packs.
And this blows the minds of our heroes.

M'kay.

hope everyone enjoys this. I'm just happy I'll always have Rogue One out of all this LFL/Disney business.

coli

I’m going to respectfully disagree. The Mandallorian has gotten positive reviews from just about everyone I talk to, everyone on the internet, even the YouTube haters even like it. It sort of reminds of Rogue One where most of the fanbase liked it, as very few hated the movie like Attack of the Clones or The Last Jedi.

I will continue to say that the Saga movies are what divide fans because they mess with the OT and the characters. If Disney can get away from that like they are doing with The Mandallorian, then I don’t think you will get the widespread hate.

GuessWho

Plus... Jango Fett was flying around 53 years earlier in Ep2.

Mike86

Not trying to pick on you personally, but I really hate this mentality that some people seem to have. Not just for Star Wars but fandoms of a multitude of things. You can be a fan of something and also be critical. In fact, and I know I’ve said this before I actually think it takes a good fan to be able to criticize something rather than blindly loving everything.

Draven

IMHO, there is a point where some fans start to claim some sort of ownership over the thing they are fans of, and use their longterm fandom as justification for tearing something to shreds. And often, when it is pointed out that the original thing they are fans of is equally flawed, they fly off the handle even more.

Josh-da-man

That is kind of odd.

I've always gotten the sense that the Star Wars universe is ancient and fairly stagnant, where they've sort of reached a technological plateau.

Which is one reason why wo many of the things from TFA (the ability to track through hyperspace, the "Holdo maneuver") seem out of place. Surely, when this galaxy-spanning civilization has been traveling through space (and hyperspace) for thousands of years, someone would have figured this stuff out before now.

The Death Star, from the original movie, is such an extreme thing that its existence is unique and significant event in the SW universe. Building a planet-killer like that is something I could see nobody attempting before, but hyperspace tracking and using hyperspace to blow up a fleet of capital ships just seems like something that should either be commonplace in that universe if it were possible.

Having the Star Wars universe being technologically stagnant presents story-telling challenges, though, when audiences expect the threat to escalate as more movies come out.

Mike86

I can agree that happens at times. I think at the same time when there is a long running franchise that makes controversial decisions obviously not everyone will love those decisions. Fans of course will have expectations, and that doesn’t mean they all need to be met, but also at the same time whatever is done instead should in my opinion be equally or more satisfying.

It’s not me saying how I feel versus how anyone else feels is right or wrong, but I do think people in charge of these franchises should have that in their minds. Especially when it’s something involving a beloved franchise and characters. Ultimately you wind with what happened with the Sequel Trilogy otherwise. Some love the films and some hate them. It should be more down the middle ideally.