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Old 09-10-08, 03:26 PM
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I liked how Bishop's lab, untouched for 17 years, was equipped with modern computers and LCD screens that he knew how to use as if that's all he did in the asylum.
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Originally Posted by Ephemeral_Life
I liked how Bishop's lab, untouched for 17 years, was equipped with modern computers and LCD screens that he knew how to use as if that's all he did in the asylum.
I believe that they brought in the new computers/monitors when they were setting everything up.

As far as being able to use computers, as a scientist working on this level of experimentation, I am quite sure he was using computers in 1992, prior to his introduction to the asylum. And computers, for the most part, have remained relatively the same since that time.

(Yes, I realize that a lot of advancements and such have brought the personal computing age along quite a good deal, but someone who was using them heavily in the early '90's would have no problem making the slight adjustment necessary. It's not as if he was searching a definitive release date for Chinese Democracy, or anything like that...)
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I didn't think it was too great, but it has potential. I'll watch a few more episodes anyways.
Hopefully they delve more into the characters and make them more interesting. Apart from the elder Bishop, they felt rather generic.
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I liked it and had been looking forward to it. I'll definitely be back!
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Lance Reddick had an excellent line:
"you're wasting my time and your breath!"

I work with the public so I'm really waiting to use that line.
Old 09-10-08, 04:32 PM
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it was ok, will probably tune in for a few more episodes but not sure if i'll stick with it.I liked the creepy bald guy from Lost who was stalking Hurley in the nuthut.
Old 09-10-08, 07:04 PM
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Fuck. Missed this.

They're going to replay it this weekend, aren't they?
Old 09-10-08, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
Fuck. Missed this.

They're going to replay it this weekend, aren't they?
Yes, on sunday for 2 hours.
Old 09-10-08, 08:00 PM
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I really liked it. It had alot of qualities of a major feature film. I can see they spent alot of the $10M budget on locations, special effects and graphics.

As some have mentioned it has alot of X-Files-like qualities. The opening sequence in the plane was quite suspenseful.

For anyone who was a fan of Journeyman, I don't know if you noticed, but the Pilot was directed by Alex Graves, who directed alot of Journeyman's episodes.

I also like Anna Torv as Olivia. She has alot of Cate Blanchett-like qualities looks-wise. I can see that they could have casted anyone of the thousands of blonde actresses in Hollywood. But, I am actually glad they went with an unknown. She can only grow as the season progresses. I'm just concerned with the money and promotion this show has been getting from FOX that the ratings may not be good enough. 9M viewers for a series premiere isn't bad by any means, but serialized/episodic sc-fi is a tough sell for a casual TV viewer.
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That looked like the same isolation tank that was used by William Hurt in Altered States.

I know a reason was given in advance, but did the cow actually do anything, or simply stand around as an impartial observer? (I'll always think of this as the Elsie Goes To College episode.)

Not bad, worth watching in the coming weeks, but not really excited by it yet.
Old 09-10-08, 08:19 PM
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I enjoyed the pilot and I'm in for watching it regularly. Although, this show has more X-Files elements than Lost elements. Oh, wait, what's this?
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Originally Posted by mdc3000
I'm sure it was pitched as X-Files meets Alias. That gets a from me.
Yeah, except those were both shows I loved that ended up going nowhere--like Lost, and I am sure this one is no different. Everyone who gets excited because this is a JJ Abrams show--that's exactly what makes me reluctant to commit to it.
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Originally Posted by DJariya
Just an FYI, if you missed it last night, it re-airs on Sunday at 8pm, but in a 2 hour form instead.

http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news.a...=20080909fox01
Good! I can tape the last 5 minutes since my first attempt was truncated. (I didn't see this thread so I only set it for 90 minutes)
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Originally Posted by GreenVulture
No more lame than Heroes writing their episode titles on floors, walls, etc.
You mean like they do in COMIC BOOKS? I wonder what gave them that idea to do that in Heroes?
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Originally Posted by veloce
Yeah, except those were both shows I loved that ended up going nowhere
I thought Alias ended on a pretty decent note - yeah they had some rough patches but went out in style IMO.
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Just watched it and it was really weak. This is my preferred genre and I found it far more annoying than anything. The writing session must have gone something like this:
Let's have some unreasonably hostile men call her honey and sweetheart over and over to accentuate that she's a woman struggling in a man's world! lame. Let's have her get some half insane scientist out of an asylum and then let him dictate setting up his old abandoned lab that is still mostly unused space at Harvard housing most of his old equipment after 17 years !? and then convince her to let him shoot her up full of drugs. That is beyond lame it's ridiculous. And the insane thing? Well, mostly let that go after his first introduction and just have him be sort of sad and distracted after that but still able to perform cutting edge science. ugh. (The main actress really doesn't bother me. She did reasonably well with poorly developed material.) Oh, and let's have a tragic love interest plot in the first episode. Haven't seen that before and cheese gives me more tender feelings than the two of them did! Who cares? Make sure to have a lot of cool sets and babble a lot of pseudo-science and make smug references to "things that you just don't what you're getting into but now you can't turn back!" lame! Well, visually it was pretty cool. I'll stop now.

I really can't believe JJ Abrams had much to do with this. He probably only had the idea, which is a pretty good one, and that's all. I'll give it a chance for a few more episodes but I can't believe this will last a full season. Then again, they only cancel the good fringe shows right away.

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Old 09-11-08, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by DJariya
I also like Anna Torv as Olivia. She has alot of Cate Blanchett-like qualities looks-wise.
I actually thought she was like a cross between Cate Blanchett and Tilda Swinton. Only problem I had with her was her American accent. It was a little stilted in places which bugged me until I realized she's an Aussie.

Originally Posted by celmendo
I really can't believe JJ Abrams had much to do with this. He probably only had the idea, which is a pretty good one, and that's all.
Um, he and the other two series creators wrote this episode...
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Originally Posted by rfduncan
Um, he and the other two series creators wrote this episode...
As I said, that could have easily been the idea only, a rough outline. That gets you a writing credit. If he did more than that, he's too busy because it wasn't his best effort.
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Mark me in the underwhelmed category. So many parts of it were so contrived I had trouble looking past it. Since the pilot obviously to cover a lot of ground getting the pieces in place for the whole season, I'll give it a few more episodes to see if it can hit its stride.

Right now I'm getting a strong Bionic Woman vibe from it. It makes me really appreciate how well X-Files pulled off these types of stories.
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Meh.

Didn't like the lead actress. She was OK, but when in scenes with the black dude from The Wire she looked way out of her league. Plus I agree the whole "honey" "sweetie" thing was overdone too.

Count me in the category of giving it one more week.
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I liked it, but I am out the second it starts to get as convoluted as 'Lost'
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It might have been better if they cast Naomi Watts as the lead
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Sad that America's Got talent won over Fringe.
What is it with people these days?
Do they check their brains at the door when they get home??
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Originally Posted by rfduncan
I actually thought she was like a cross between Cate Blanchett and Tilda Swinton.
I thought Anna Torv looked like a cross between Cate Blanchett and another Aussie, Sarah Wynter. Torv is a nice find.

Was annoyed with the large text indicating the locations. But overall Pilot was good! The intro was icky-horror fun.
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Originally Posted by TallGuyMe
I liked it, but I am out the second it starts to get as convoluted as 'Lost'

Didn't that happen about 10 minutes in?


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