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Old 09-11-08, 06:31 PM
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I was kind of meh on the pilot. If this were an Alias/Lost grand conspiracy serial show I wouldn't stick with it, but I'll check out a few episodes to see what the regular show is like.
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Originally Posted by riley_dude
Sad that America's Got talent won over Fringe.
What is it with people these days?
Do they check their brains at the door when they get home??
I am not a fan of AGT, but I would say of the "reality" shows out there, that is probably one of the better ones. If somebody forced me to pick one to watch I would pick AGT over American Idol. At least AGT has a decent amount of variety.

You also have to keep in mind fans of AGT have been following that show for quite some time now and they are getting close to the end of the season. If you watch it, this is where the good really starts getting good...they are narrowing down to the best of the best.

So don't dog on the fans of the show, dog on Fox for treating another show like crap by putting up against a time slot it can't possibly win in. It has nothing to say about the quality (or lack thereof, if that's your stance) of Fringe. It just goes to show there are loyal fans of AGT.
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You mean like they do in COMIC BOOKS? I wonder what gave them that idea to do that in Heroes?
Probably the same place where Fringe got part of their inspiration: comic books. Both are cases where they're trying a unique way of presenting text onscreen; I honestly have no idea why a two-second shot of floating text bothers you so much.
Old 09-11-08, 09:16 PM
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It's actually more akin to Miracles than The X Files... just replace the religion with science.
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i enjoyed the show will defently watch next week.
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Originally Posted by GreenVulture
Probably the same place where Fringe got part of their inspiration: comic books. Both are cases where they're trying a unique way of presenting text onscreen; I honestly have no idea why a two-second shot of floating text bothers you so much.
I thought the text was kind of neat, but it did cross the line from interesting to distracting a couple of times. Like when they showed the text for Baghdad Iraq over the city and then cut to a reverse shot of the choppers flying over/behind the giant B.
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There was a TV commercial that used that floating text concept in a funny way; people onscreen would walk into the text and it would be revealed as actual physical letters suspended on ropes or cords. Can't remember the product; haven't seen the advert lately.
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Originally Posted by Ephemeral_Life
I liked how Bishop's lab, untouched for 17 years.
I really enjoyed this pilot episode. This show has potential. I'm curious though...Russo's radio transmission has been broadcasting about the same amount of time as Bishop's lab has been dormant. Coincidence? Who knows...

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Old 09-11-08, 11:50 PM
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Check out www.massivedynamic.com. It's amusing.
Old 09-12-08, 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by GreenVulture
Probably the same place where Fringe got part of their inspiration: comic books.
In Fringe's case, Warren Ellis comic books. Only, you know, crappy.

If anyone is interested, search out Warren Ellis' series Planetary. You'll thank me.
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any differences between the dvd screener and what aired ?
Old 09-12-08, 08:54 AM
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^Yes, they added a few small scenes/dialogue bits here and there. The aired version was better than the screener IMO. AICN gave a short rundown of differences http://www.aintitcool.com/node/38263
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This was a very anticipated show for me, but I have to admit that I found it pretty unengaging. The opening was really cool, but after that, I just felt oddly detached and bored. I ended up shopping on my laptop while this was playing. I can't decide if it was the show or my mood, so I haven't deleted it yet. Just can't decide whether I want to devote the time to try to watch it again.
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Finally watched this... was *NOT* impressed by any shakes of the wee-wee. Started out kinda interesting, then began a gradual slide into indifference, boredom, and finally I shut the damn thing off. Didn't like *any* of the actors, the story moved too slow, no hook, no grab, no nothing.
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I liked it for the most part, although I was hoping Mark Valley would have remained a permanent cast member.
Old 09-12-08, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by mdc3000
^Yes, they added a few small scenes/dialogue bits here and there. The aired version was better than the screener IMO. AICN gave a short rundown of differences http://www.aintitcool.com/node/38263
Glad the AICN respondents didn't agree with Herc's thoughts on "Fringe" because he sounds like a shill for the show (because I thought it just plodded along and wasn't all that interesting).
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It was the 1st fricking episode, give it time to grow. If your not easily entertained and get bored fast, then move on and find other things to watch. I understand that a heavily hyped show like this is bound to draw alot of negative criticism, but the actors and writers can only grow from here on out. I think Anna Torv will only get better as the series progresses.

But, if you enjoyed it, like I did, then support it and watch it every week.

I would rather keep another scripted show on the air with some money going into it, than tempt the networks to greenlight more Greatest American Dog or Hole in the Wall Game Shows that only cost pennies to produce.

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Old 09-13-08, 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by DJariya
It was the 1st fricking episode, give it time to grow. If your not easily entertained and get bored fast, then move on and find other things to watch. I understand that a heavily hyped show like this is bound to draw alot of negative criticism, but the actors and writers can only grow from here on out. I think Anna Torv will only get better as the series progresses.
I don't think I have ever read a negative criticism of a show by you. You are a TV fan and that is not a bad thing, but analysis of shows to many is often as much fun as watching them.

I thought Anna Torv was great. Jackson was just a compilation of one liners, he is the one that needs to be given time for his character to grow. He added nothing to the plot. It won't be long before they emphasize the Torv/Jackson thing.

The all too evident episodic nature is what I am worried about. As easy as it is to pick up an episodic show, it is just as easy to drop it. I dropped House this season, because of the strong episodic formula.

I will watch Fringe, good or bad.
Old 09-13-08, 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Ayre
I don't think I have ever read a negative criticism of a show by you. You are a TV fan and that is not a bad thing, but analysis of shows to many is often as much fun as watching them.

I thought Anna Torv was great. Jackson was just a compilation of one liners, he is the one that needs to be given time for his character to grow. He added nothing to the plot. It won't be long before they emphasize the Torv/Jackson thing.

The all too evident episodic nature is what I am worried about. As easy as it is to pick up an episodic show, it is just as easy to drop it. I dropped House this season, because of the strong episodic formula.

I will watch Fringe, good or bad.
Usually the stuff that interests me I end up liking so that's probably why you have never seen me give a negative remark about a new show that I try. If the show doesn't interest me, I don't watch it. I may hate a certain episode here and there, but overall I am easily entertained. One of the things that I have noticed is that some people here are watching new shows while typing remarks on this site as the show is airing live. I don't know about you, but I need to pay full and close attention to a show to truly understand the plot and appreciate it.

I actually agree with you on Jackson. The sweetheart thing and most of his dialogue were all cheesy 1-liners.

Mainly I like and appreciate scripted drama and appreciate it when a studio puts the time and money to invest in a show like this. But, I know that not everyone can be pleased.

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Old 09-13-08, 09:33 AM
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I think I missed a big plot point. What sent them to the storage facility in the first place?

I remember the scene in HQ where a gov't guy said that someone saw 2 Middle Eastern guys hand a White guy a briefcase, and then the chief sent Torv to check it out. Did the exchange happen at the storage unit and how did that tie into the plane spooge?

Do you think that Torv was sent on purpose? After the exchange at the end between Torv & the chief, it seemed almost like he had been testing her all along.
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I'm going to give it another chance even though I thought the pilot was kind of weak. The one thing that bothered me and it's very minor was when

Spoiler:
the co pilot opened the door to the cabin from the cockpit. Aren't they suppose to keep that door shut no matter what and it seemed like they already had an idea that shit was going on. However, I don't really think it mattered if they did keep it shut because the virus would have gotten them anyways through the recycled air. I dunno; it made me think there was going to be more lame details if that one got through.
Old 09-13-08, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by DJariya
It was the 1st fricking episode, give it time to grow. If your not easily entertained and get bored fast, then move on and find other things to watch. I understand that a heavily hyped show like this is bound to draw alot of negative criticism, but the actors and writers can only grow from here on out.
I don't necessarily disagree with you, but I'm trying to think of a recent hit series that had a pilot as bad (or as below-average, if I'm being kind) as FRINGE that went on to be a major hit.

The pilots for Alias, The X-Files, Heroes, Battlestar Galactica, Lost, and just about every other recent hit I can think of in the sci-fi realm all had much more engaging/interesting pilots than FRINGE.
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Originally Posted by DJariya
It was the 1st fricking episode, give it time to grow. If your not easily entertained and get bored fast, then move on and find other things to watch. I understand that a heavily hyped show like this is bound to draw alot of negative criticism, but the actors and writers can only grow from here on out. I think Anna Torv will only get better as the series progresses.

But, if you enjoyed it, like I did, then support it and watch it every week.

I would rather keep another scripted show on the air with some money going into it, than tempt the networks to greenlight more Greatest American Dog or Hole in the Wall Game Shows that only cost pennies to produce.
I do agree about the horrible game shows and reality shows that need to die. I don't think that the negative criticisms for this show are unwarranted though. Another Abrams show, Alias, has one of the best pilots ever IMO. I was immediately hooked. Lost was great as well. I do intend to give this a chance.
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Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt
The pilots for Alias, The X-Files, Heroes, Battlestar Galactica, Lost, and just about every other recent hit I can think of in the sci-fi realm all had much more engaging/interesting pilots than FRINGE.
Much like all of Heroes its pilot was garbage, so it shows that a show that starts out bad and continues to be bad can stick around. Not that I think that applies to Fringe mind you, it wasn't a great pilot, but it wasn't a bad pilot.
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Originally Posted by GreenVulture
I honestly have no idea why a two-second shot of floating text bothers you so much.
Where did you get the idea it did? I didn't even bring the topic about it up, I just seconded an opinion on it. If anything, it's distracting.

And this show isn't inspired by comic books. It's inspired by the X-Files.


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