OldBoy

I just found out PS5 players have to pay to buy games again if already had on PS4. Why is that? That seems stupid, especially when MS made it free mostly.

Adam Tyner

That’s not true. Some upgrades aren’t free (and a fairly small number at that), but that’s also the case on the Xbox. At worst, you can play the PS4 version on the PS5, but you’re not locked out altogether.

Decker

Yeah the upgrades are the same for both systems. And any PS5 exclusive with an available upgrade is free (except for FF VII Remake - - if you got the free version from PS Plus. If you got a retail version, then the PS5 upgrade is free (except for the new content which can be purchased separately).

Also Tony Hawk 1 &. 2 Remake is upgradable for both systems digitally but only the PS4 disc based version can be upgraded to the next Gen version, not the XO one.

fujishig

What thread is this again?

Deftones

So this is crazy....

Deftones

Also possible flight sim news...

RichC2

This is what I've been expecting for a while - and kind of assumed it may be the "future" of console gaming (or gaming in general) - namely the ability to stream games on every TV + subscription services.

But the lag still isn't quite right for competitive games (it's fine for most single player titles though) and Xbox streaming still has some hiccups to work out.

K&AJones

Personally...I feel MS is in the driver's seat with more to gain, focus on expanding and bringing gaming to all avenues, access, and availability to all; be it consoles to PC to built-in devices inside TV's. Despite I like Sony, the games and Playstation, I feel they've become lax and relying on a handful of Studios and Games that's carried them to the top..Last of Us, Bloodborne, Uncharted, Ghost of Tsushima, God of War....for the 2nd straight year they're not even attending E3 which has left some perplexed....while MS has been out annoucing and doing huge plans like incorporating XB tech inside TV's and already in talks with TV Manufactures....

I for one will be watching the MS and Bethesda joint Conference Tomorrow with great interest...it's MS show to win with little to lose since Sony is a no-show. I've told several PS4 friends the XBox Game pass is almost a no brainer especially anyone looking into getting into Gaming.....which right now again MS has the advantage with the appeal to both Consoles and PC players; Sony does not and in fact sort has given PC Players a ho-hum response. What MS and Bethesda does, say and show tomorrow might didctate me on getting a PC instead of even thinking about a PS5 which by all accounts the shortage will remain for a long time.

tonyc3742

Absolutely. Times are changing. Streaming and lack of hardware dependency is much more a thing. And with a lot of MS's other offerings, they're well versed in SaaS and subscription services.
I've always leaned console versus PC as gamer, but that's mostly because I started PC gaming in the days of EMS and XMS and MMS memory and boot disks and jumping through hoops to play one game. And my personal computer is like ten years old. But if MS is selling "Netflix for games", which they absolutely are, getting on as many devices as possible, as easily/cheaply as possible, is the way to go. I was never interested in "gaming on a streaming stick", but that's because it was (at least as far as I knew) really simple 'casual' games that used the Roku remote to play or something. Just not a fun experience, or games I actively choose to play on that device. But if I can have a Game Pass Streaming Stick or something, or access to their games and maybe the service built in to TVs, and all you need is a controller - that could be huge. I'm sure there are still technical challenges ahead, and it'll be interesting to see how they can replicate a game that's a 75gb download on Xbox via a Smart TV OS, but it's a big play with a really big potential benefit to MS.

Deftones

Was hoping this would hit this year

K&AJones

Hate to admit it..but not even 30 minutes in, MS is killing Sony...Starfield, Stalker 2, Back-4-Blood...all Day One Game Pass

Deftones

Pirates of Caribbean DLC for Sea of Thieves.

Music

Who cares? Enjoy all the consoles and PC games for what they are.

Deftones

Hades coming to Game Pass August 13th, 2021

Decker

Looking forward to the Halo Infinite campaign.

Decker

Gotta finish Plaque Tale 1 sometime. Nice that the sequel will be a Game Pass Day 1 game

Decker

Shredders looks at least a generation earlier than Steep which came out a few years ago.

Decker

I didn’t really understand what kind of game The Ascent is based on that trailer. Is it an isometric ARPG?. Nice that it is coming soon so I can at least check it out.

Decker

Ah here we go! Flight Simulator at last

Edit : Free Top Gun Maverick expansion this Fall!

Deftones

Flight sim July 27th

And free Top Gun DLC!

Decker

Forza Horizon 5 in Mexico looks amazing!

K&AJones

Good Show...hats off to MS...a lot of good stuff shown, coming....XBox Game Pass pretty much sold itself; I don't think there was but one game metioned...Sea of Thieves...that wasn't going Game pass....Redfall really looked fun....the Outer Worlds 2...Atomic Heart a Russian version of Bioshock that looked even more stranger.....

Dan

Replaced looks like a game that was announced like five years ago, but under a different name. Can't remember what it was... But looks cool.

OldBoy

Anything about Halo: Infinite at this E3?

Deftones

Yes. A Google search will help you find everything you need.