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Old 06-09-08, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Artman
I don't see why Nolan wouldn't come back...it's not like he had a bad experience making TDK (as far as we know). The Dent storyline/character in the next one would be too much to pass up I think. The hard part will be saying goodbye to this series after 3, as I don't think there'd be a chance in hell of getting any more out of Bale/Nolan at that point.
Absolutely agree. I think Nolan will want to finish this storyline himself. He'll be able to come up with a fitting conclusion. I think unfortunately Warner will continue the franchise without both Bale and Nolan and it will be a horrible mistake. I once said no one could ever play Batman better than Keaton. After seeing "Begins" I easily fell back on my comment.
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i have to say.. i posted this and i am still cracking up...

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Originally Posted by mrflix
Absolutely agree. I think Nolan will want to finish this storyline himself. He'll be able to come up with a fitting conclusion. I think unfortunately Warner will continue the franchise without both Bale and Nolan and it will be a horrible mistake. I once said no one could ever play Batman better than Keaton. After seeing "Begins" I easily fell back on my comment.
And then when you see the new re-imagined Batman you'll say I didn't think anyone could play Batman better than Bale, after seeing the new movie I easily fell back on my comment.

I still think Keaton was a better Batman. He was brooding and intimidating. Bale wasn't very intimidating especially when he was all "swear to me!"
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I still think Keaton was a better Batman. He was brooding and intimidating. Bale wasn't very intimidating especially when he was all "swear to me!"
I think the surprise factor played a role as well. No one expected Keaton to be such a bad ass. Bale's been in action flick's before so the impact of his take on Bats wasn't as great.
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And then when you see the new re-imagined Batman you'll say I didn't think anyone could play Batman better than Bale, after seeing the new movie I easily fell back on my comment.

I still think Keaton was a better Batman. He was brooding and intimidating. Bale wasn't very intimidating especially when he was all "swear to me!"
I'm not disagreeing. It is still hard for me to like Bale's Batman more than Keaton. As a kid 1989 Batman was all I knew. As a 9 year old back then there was nothing better than that Batman movie. (One of the reasons I love movies so much to this day). I was skeptical about Begins before it came out, but was completely blown away by it once I saw it.

So is Keaton still a great Batman, absolutely. My personal preference though is the new Batman. It's probably just the adult in me finally happy that a good Batman movie has returned after Warner and Joel Shumacher ruined the franchise.
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I like to think that Keaton played the perfect Batman for Burton's vision and Bale plays the perfect Batman for Nolan's vision. Honestly, they are both almost entirely different and if you swap the actors around, both films would suck.
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I bought an old ToyBiz Batman figure a month ago, and every time I look at it, I think 'THAT'S Batman'. I was 8 when it came out so it was a nice piece of nostalgia. At the same time, there is no definitive Batman for me, because I liked Keaton, Kilmer and Bale, and they were in such different interpretations that they worked for their specific films.

I must say looking at the trailers for The Dark Knight made me say screw Nicholson and Keaton, but that was a gut reaction to watching the trailers for the first time and not a firm opinion. There's room for all...except Clooney and West. (I will never understand the love for that 1966 show. I saw every episode and the movie, and I still don't get the appeal, even for its silliness. )
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That video was the best worst thing I have EVER seen, haha! The sound effects and music by mouth, and the Michael Caine appearance
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Bale is, but Nolan isn't. Some of his comments suggest that he may not be back for a third. We might get one of those situations where Nolan produces (and perhaps writes), but doesn't direct.
He'll be back for the third to wrap up the trilogy and then leave... And then WB will find another director (one favorite is Guillermo Del Toro) for another three (whether Bale returns, I don't know).
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Del Toro to do a Batman trilogy? I don't know about that. He's expressed interested in a lot of different projects, including a third Hellboy, and all of them will have to be put on hold due to his helming The Hobbit. I'm willing to bet he'll come out of that two-film project looking to do something closer to his heart than Batman.
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Good find.


I'm pissed they didn't use better knives in that video.
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Not the knives again!
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No, no, he's not the knife freak.
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Originally Posted by Suprmallet
Del Toro to do a Batman trilogy? I don't know about that. He's expressed interested in a lot of different projects, including a third Hellboy, and all of them will have to be put on hold due to his helming The Hobbit. I'm willing to bet he'll come out of that two-film project looking to do something closer to his heart than Batman.
Not saying he's a favorite of WB's or anything, just that I've read his name on the Net by some fans. Style-wise, I'd be interested to see what he would do.
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No, no, he's not the knife freak.
Haha, I know, but we don't need to get that started again
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I would not like de toro doing a Batman film. I don't like him doing the Hobbit, but I'm more of a fan of Bats than Tolkien.

How's this for a driector of Batman Beins 3 (Nolan 99% will be back): Chan Park-wook?
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Honestly, while I like Chan Park-Wook's movies, I don't think he's that great of a director. Oldboy reminded me of a Fincher movie, but less refined (still one of my favorite flicks.)

All his movies have serious lulls and pacing issues, the other issues I tend to have probably have more to do with budget issues. That said, he does choose excellent subject matter.

Certainly not a bad one, and it'd be fun to see Bats take on a room full of weapon wielding baddies in a single shot, but I dunno.. foreign directors doing English movies have a sketchy record as of late.

One thing I think Nolan does better than just about any other director these days, is drive a story forward, nary a wasted scene in any of his flicks.

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For a third Batman outing I'd like to see something ala 300. Something super stylish that looks like a comic book.
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For a third Batman outing I'd like to see something ala 300. Something super stylish that looks like a comic book.
Ugh, no!
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For a third Batman outing I'd like to see something ala 300. Something super stylish that looks like a comic book.
Wasn't that called Batman and Robin?
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Actually it was called Sin City.
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Sin City but...Batman!
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So.... The Spirit?
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For a third Batman outing I'd like to see something ala 300. Something super stylish that looks like a comic book.
Kill me. They already tried that with Hulk.
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