The Dark Knight (Batman Begins 2) Discussion - Part 2
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Originally Posted by caligulathegod
Not to really get into A vs B listers, DC comic films have pretty much been limited to Superman, Batman and Swampthing with a couple offshoots of those characters (Supergirl, Catwoman). Marvel has made Howard the Duck, Captain America, Nick Fury, Blade, X-Men, Spider-Man, Daredevil, Hulk, The Punisher, Iron Man, Dr. Strange, and some offshoots. Yeah. they used to be shitty TV movies or low budget crud, but the variety is to be lauded and Marvel has stopped licensing their product to two guys with a camcorder and beer money and made some pretty decent films lately. DC films has limited itself to a few big budget tentpoles. I think that's probably what he was getting at.
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As soon as Bale turned the Joker card over at the end of Batman Begins I thought please do the character right. The Joker needs to be dark, sinister and crazy as hell. I got exactly what I hoped for. Ledger nailed the part. Best movie of the summer and the best comic book movie of all time. I'm driving my son four hours next weekend to see it on an Imax screen.
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Originally Posted by arbogast777
One thing I didn't get, mainly because it was about 2:30am by this point and the eye lids were starting to get heavy...
Spoiler:
Spoiler:
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Originally Posted by arbogast777
One thing I didn't get, mainly because it was about 2:30am by this point and the eye lids were starting to get heavy...
Spoiler:
Spoiler:
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Originally Posted by arbogast777
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Originally Posted by caligulathegod
True, but when you actually look at a list of what was made, it's like a dozen Superman and related movies, a dozen Batman related movies (both since the 1940s!), 2 Swamp Thing movies, and then nothing else, I can kind of see the point.
(I'm purposefully not counting the few one shots like V for Vendetta)
(I'm purposefully not counting the few one shots like V for Vendetta)
Why? Doesn't V count?
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Originally Posted by Ky-Fi
That's exactly what I meant. I mean, with DC, Batman and Superman have been in comics, movies and tv shows non-stop since the 1930's. I like those characters, but DC has as rich a universe as Marvel does, and I wish they would give some attention to some of those other characters with some of the same quality that Marvel has put out recently.
Plus, don't forget The Watchmen in 2009
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I'm not as critical as many of a lot of the lesser recent Marvel movies, like Daredevil, Elektra and the FF movies. While they may not be fantastic movies, IMO, they're decent efforts.
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Simply phenomenal. There really aren't enough superlatives to explain how good this movie is. My only minor complaint, is that in Batman Begins, they did a better job of capturing the dark and dangerous feel of the city. In this, it just felt like Chicago at night. Now, I know some of that has to do with the fact that Batman and Harvey had cleaned up the city, but I still didn't get the same vibe as I did from Batman Begins. But considering that's my only complaint about the movie at all, it's pretty minor in the scope of things.
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I took a trip up to Nashville, TN this weekend to see TDK with my cousin. A week ago he went to the IMAX theater to preorder the tickets, and it's a good think that he did since it sold out very quickly. We got tickets for the 7pm showing on Friday night since all of the other IMAX showings were sold out up to that point.
I left to come visit him this past Thursday. I left work a bit early and got up here around 9 or 10 that night. Once I got here, we started talking about how much we were looking forward to seeing the movie. Then, out of nowhere, we started talking about how it will actually be coming on in just an hour or two. Just for fun, we checked online to see if any normal showings were available, and we found out they changed it from just one normal 12am showing, to six and one of those wasn't sold out. We decided we couldn't wait until 7pm the next night to see it, so we took off really quick and went to the theater.
We got there, they still had a few tickets, so we saw a normal 12am showing.
Then, less than 24 hours later, we saw the IMAX showing we already had tickets for.
I've seen TDK twice in less than 24 hours, and I'd watch it again right this minute if someone asked, heh. I'll post my complete thoughts on the film when I get home, but it's safe to say that it was even better than I imagined it would be, and it's now one of my favorite films of all time. It's a work of art, the type of flick you rarely ever see come along.
I left to come visit him this past Thursday. I left work a bit early and got up here around 9 or 10 that night. Once I got here, we started talking about how much we were looking forward to seeing the movie. Then, out of nowhere, we started talking about how it will actually be coming on in just an hour or two. Just for fun, we checked online to see if any normal showings were available, and we found out they changed it from just one normal 12am showing, to six and one of those wasn't sold out. We decided we couldn't wait until 7pm the next night to see it, so we took off really quick and went to the theater.
We got there, they still had a few tickets, so we saw a normal 12am showing.
Then, less than 24 hours later, we saw the IMAX showing we already had tickets for.
I've seen TDK twice in less than 24 hours, and I'd watch it again right this minute if someone asked, heh. I'll post my complete thoughts on the film when I get home, but it's safe to say that it was even better than I imagined it would be, and it's now one of my favorite films of all time. It's a work of art, the type of flick you rarely ever see come along.
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anyone else think that TDK could have been easily rated 'R' despite actually seeing blood?
i just think the twisted, random nature of Ledger's Joker transcended the genre to horror genre and despite not actually seeing the red stuff, with Joker, Dent's face, the tonal nature of the film, and the many killings this could have been easily 'R'.
i just think the twisted, random nature of Ledger's Joker transcended the genre to horror genre and despite not actually seeing the red stuff, with Joker, Dent's face, the tonal nature of the film, and the many killings this could have been easily 'R'.
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Originally Posted by Giantrobo
Agreed. DC has many characters that would be great in film. As a DC fan I HATE to admit this but the truth is DC isn't as popular with the unwashed masses* as Marvel is. Most only know WW, Batman, and Superman from DC and a huge chunk of that group has no idea they aren't Marvel characters.
Plus, don't forget The Watchmen in 2009![Drool](/images/smilies/drool.gif)
Plus, don't forget The Watchmen in 2009
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It doesn't help that WB is being moronic with how they create their franchises. They could have easily made a justice league movie. Look at how hard Marvel has had to get back their rights for their characters and now they're making an avengers film.
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Originally Posted by scott1598
anyone else think that TDK could have been easily rated 'R' despite actually seeing blood?
i just think the twisted, random nature of Ledger's Joker transcended the genre to horror genre and despite not actually seeing the red stuff, with Joker, Dent's face, the tonal nature of the film, and the many killings this could have been easily 'R'.
i just think the twisted, random nature of Ledger's Joker transcended the genre to horror genre and despite not actually seeing the red stuff, with Joker, Dent's face, the tonal nature of the film, and the many killings this could have been easily 'R'.
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Originally Posted by bub2000
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Edit: Oh, and did anybody else recogize Bat-Manuel? A bit too much eyeliner. It really stands out in Imax.![Big Grin](/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Edit: Oh, and did anybody else recogize Bat-Manuel? A bit too much eyeliner. It really stands out in Imax.
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Quick question - should I expect this to be showing at IMAX screens next weekend? Saw it last night in digital (had IMAX tickets but didn't get to see it, long story) and want to go next Saturday morning to see it on IMAX and the new X-Files back to back. How long do you guys think this film will be a staple on the IMAX screen?
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Originally Posted by abrg923
Quick question - should I expect this to be showing at IMAX screens next weekend? Saw it last night in digital (had IMAX tickets but didn't get to see it, long story) and want to go next Saturday morning to see it on IMAX and the new X-Files back to back. How long do you guys think this film will be a staple on the IMAX screen?
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Awesome. The plan is to be there next Saturday morning...I keep watching to see when the theater's website puts those up for sale.
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Originally Posted by fumanstan
I wonder if Robo can discuss comic book properties without bashing Marvel ![LOL](/images/smilies/lol.gif)
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Fuck no. But at least I'm honest about being a DC Fanboy and the way I look DOWN on All things Marvel.
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Thankfully, TDK washed the nasty taste of Iron Man and The Hulk out of my mouth.
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Originally Posted by scott1598
anyone else think that TDK could have been easily rated 'R' despite actually seeing blood?
i just think the twisted, random nature of Ledger's Joker transcended the genre to horror genre and despite not actually seeing the red stuff, with Joker, Dent's face, the tonal nature of the film, and the many killings this could have been easily 'R'.
i just think the twisted, random nature of Ledger's Joker transcended the genre to horror genre and despite not actually seeing the red stuff, with Joker, Dent's face, the tonal nature of the film, and the many killings this could have been easily 'R'.
The film is rampant with evil - and I do mean evil - intent and the themes are extremely dark. And thanks to this, it makes for a helluva great villain and ride. Loved every minute of it, but I think it's definitely geared towards the adult crowd.
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Originally Posted by Jackskeleton
It doesn't help that WB is being moronic with how they create their franchises. They could have easily made a justice league movie. Look at how hard Marvel has had to get back their rights for their characters and now they're making an avengers film.
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I don't think we'll ever see cameos like that in DC films. Fuckin' Lawyers...
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Originally Posted by scott1598
anyone else think that TDK could have been easily rated 'R' despite actually seeing blood?
I think not having any blood shed (visually) on screen and some creative editing are the only thing that saved the movie an R.....cause the movie is brutal.