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Old 11-06-14, 02:02 PM
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (2015, D: Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fis

Originally Posted by stvn1974
What is this " A New Hope" that people mention? Star Wars, Empire Strikes Back and Return Of The Jedi are the only real films.
A New Hope has been the title since the early 80s when Lucas had a direct line into the mind of God and he used his gift to grace the world with the greatest work of fiction in the history of the universe.

It was long before he became worse than a thousand Hitlers starting in 1997.
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Originally Posted by Guru Askew
I'd like to see an PT hater explain how the OT titles were good and the PT ones were bad.

A New Hope is just generic and not very memorable. The Empire Strikes Back makes some sense though their act of striking back is pretty much done once they leave Hoth but Return of the Jedi is nonsensical considering Luke never went anywhere though you could make the case that it refers to the Jedi Order in general or even Anakin Skywalker.
The Empire Strikes Back is the best title. It's more than just Hoth. It's Han getting captured, it's Luke getting his hand cut off. The whole Bespin scene really.

I do think Revenge of the Sith is s good title in not only a fan service way but also the way it mirrors the Return title.

I've always taken the Return to be Anakin. Well not originally I thought it was Luke but when I got older the Jedi that is returning is clearly Anakin.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (2015, D: Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fis

I like the title...let me know when it's officially okay to just refer to it as "TFA".

Bottom line is that none of these movies have had very good titles...but this one isn't nearly the head-scratcher that "The Phantom Menace" was when we first heard about it back in 1998 or whenever they officially announced it.

Plus, considering that most die-hard fans think the series has done nothing but backtrack since 1983, it also has a double meaning of "yeah, we're back!" I'm sure Disney and JJ liked that about the title.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (2015, D: Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fis

Originally Posted by Guru Askew
A New Hope has been the title since the early 80s when Lucas had a direct line into the mind of God and he used his gift to grace the world with the greatest work of fiction in the history of the universe.

It was long before he became worse than a thousand Hitlers starting in 1997.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015, D: Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fisher, Serkis, von Syd

Originally Posted by Bob_Bobbson
I'm surprised I'm the first to post this.

Apparently we have a title.



"Star Wars: The Force Awakens has completed principal photography. #StarWarsVII #TheForceAwakens"

From the official Star Wars Twitter account.

I like it, its catchy.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (2015, D: Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fis

Originally Posted by Timber
I've always taken the Return to be Anakin. Well not originally I thought it was Luke but when I got older the Jedi that is returning is clearly Anakin.
Which makes Lucas' insertion of Ghost Hayden at the end of Return of the Jedi even worse!
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Originally Posted by rocket1312
Yah, I've always kind of liked George's goofy serial-esque titles. This one's pretty boring.
Agreed. I liked that the other movies had titles that sound like chapters from a Republic serial. This one's just kinda meh.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (2015, D: Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fis

How does the Force awaken? That's like saying, gravity has woken.


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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (2015, D: Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fis

Originally Posted by EctoCooler
How does the Force awaken? That's like saying, gravity has woken.


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Yeah...It's an energy field created by all living things. It surrounds us, penetrates us...it binds the galaxy together.
But it's resting now. It had a hard day at the office so don't make too much noise. Just take your little friends and go play out-
Shit! you woke it up!

I'll be right in with your beer, honey....
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (2015, D: Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fis

Originally Posted by EctoCooler
How does the Force awaken? That's like saying, gravity has woken.
The Force is not like gravity. It's more like dolphins. You can't go anywhere without it surrounding and penetrating you.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (2015, D: Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fis

Originally Posted by EctoCooler
How does the Force awaken? That's like saying, gravity has woken.


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Luke: "You mean it controls your actions?"
Ben: "Partially, but it also obeys your commands."
You're just nitpicking here, The Force is clearly established to have, if not a sentience, at least a level of activity that separates it from, say, the electricity in the wires of your house. It nudges events and people in the directions it wants them to go.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (2015, D: Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fis

Force was drunk, it woke up with a tattoo on its back and it's pissed off!
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The Force Awakens With Wood
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I always thought of the Force as being kind of like Mother Nature. Mother Nature isn't exactly a real tangible thing, but whenever there is a bad storm sometimes people say things like, "Mother Nature is angry" or "Mother Nature has unleashed her fury." I imagine "the Force awakening" would be somewhat similar.

I also always thought Return of the Jedi meant a return of the old Jedi Order. Yoda even tells Luke to pass his teachings on to new students. Although Episode VII spoilers...
Spoiler:
Some rumors for Episode VII indicate Luke did not re-establish the Jedi Order.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (2015, D: Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fis

I'm fine with the title, it only had to be better than The Phantom Menace and it achieves that. Movie will probably be a little better too. If it's on Revenge Of The Sith level without the baggage of two previous shitty films to lead in, we will all be ok with it.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (2015, D: Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fis

Why not just call it Star Wars 7? Or just leave the Star Wars part out of it like the James Bond Franchise, we'll figure it out when we see lightsabers and hear that score.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (2015, D: Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fis

Am I the only one who always associated the FOX fanfare with the true start of a Star Wars movie? I'm going to miss that.

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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (2015, D: Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fis

Originally Posted by TGM
Am I the only one who always associated the FOX fanfare with the true start of a Star Wars movie? I'm going to miss that.
Fixed.

Me too, has there been word that they won't? That's gonna be weird.
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Good point, that will feel a bit odd. The major thing is the title screen where it says STAR WARS and the horns blast. Do you think they will do that for the spin-off movies? Might seem weird to start off a Boba Fett movie that way.
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Originally Posted by TGM
Am I the only one who always associated the FOX fanfare with the true start of a Star Wars movie? I'm going to miss that.
No, I do as well. It will be missed.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (2015, D: Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fis

Originally Posted by DaveyJoe
Good point, that will feel a bit odd. The major thing is the title screen where it says STAR WARS and the horns blast. Do you think they will do that for the spin-off movies? Might seem weird to start off a Boba Fett movie that way.
I hope they reserve that strictly for the "Episode" installments. I also hope they go the Marvel route and don't put the Disney or Bad Robot logos at the start of the movie (though I'm betting Abrams will insist on the latter appearing right after the Lucasfilm Ltd. logo). Seeing Cinderella's castle with the "When You Wish Upon a Star" theme playing right before a Star Wars movie would feel kind of strange to me.

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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (2015, D: Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fis

whoa. it will be weird w/o the fox logo and theme going.
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Originally Posted by My Other Self
No, I do as well. It will be missed.
I expect Williams to compose a new intro that will make us miss it less so.
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<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/A_5LhRNb2pg?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

The reason the main title theme seems to complete the fanfare is that it does: John Williams composed the theme in B major — the same key as Alfred Newman's 1933 fanfare — knowing the Fox anthem would lead into his opening notes.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (2015, D: Abrams) S: Hamill, Ford, Fis

Originally Posted by Kal-El
Fixed.

Me too, has there been word that they won't? That's gonna be weird.
Fox isn't releasing them, it won't be there.


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