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Old 10-28-13, 07:50 PM
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Star Wars Episode VII: Rumour Alert: Harrison Ford Is Back

Now THIS is how you start the new week. The news we've all been hoping for has reached us from the mysterious Jedi Master SQL.

Han Solo, Harrison Ford, is back and onboard for Episode Seven, but that's not all. As part of the deal, steps have been made which raise the possibility of Ford donning the famed Fedora hat of Indiana Jones once more.

A verbal agreement with Ford to play Han Solo once more has been in principle place since before the Disney deal. Over the course of this summer financial settlements were reached. The outstanding points that had dragged on but are now resolved are:

Ford wanted to see the synopsis for his character's development over more than just Episode 7. He saw this in August and is happy with the story arc.

Ford wanted a commitment to Indy 5. He did not get this as there is no plot line or script in place. What did happen was an agreement was made wherein an outline would be developed by the end of calendar year 2014, and if all parties can agree to it moving forward, efforts would be made to move on Indy 5 for release before the end of 2016.

Disney wanted a multi film deal with Ford which transcends Episode 7. This has now been agreed.

Exciting news indeed from the Jedi Master. Fans can breath some relief that Han Solo is back, and while we can't quite say Indiana Jones 5 is coming it is exciting that conceptually it's back on the table.

As ever, until confirmed by Lucasfilm, Disney or Bad Robot this is just a rumour, and should be treated as so.
http://www.jedinews.co.uk/news/news.aspx?newsID=14102
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Considering Ford wanted Han Solo killed off as early as tESB, I find it hard to believe that he lobbied to have Solo in more than just episode VII. seems odd to me.
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Originally Posted by TGM
Considering Ford wanted Han Solo killed off as early as tESB, I find it hard to believe that he lobbied to have Solo in more than just episode VII. seems odd to me.
That was Ford after the sucess of Star Wars when he wanted to get away from the Han Solo character, and go on to other projects. (Which he eventually did and had a great career.) He probably thought there would be a Sequel Trilogy after Return of the Jedi and didn't want to get pigeon-holed as Han Solo for another trilogy, so he figured if they killed him off in Jedi, then he wouldn't be obligated. Remember, there is a reason Lucas did NOT want any of the main characters to die in Jedi (as Kasdan wanted to kill someone at the Sarlaac Pit), as he probably thought somewhere down the line he would do the ST.

I think at Ford's age, he just doesn't care anymore, and probably enjoys the work since he really hasn't done a good movie in a long time. He probably still wants to do another Indy movie, and that was probably part of the deal was to be apart of the new SW trilogy as Han Solo again.

Just speculation of course, IMO.

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Originally Posted by TGM
Considering Ford wanted Han Solo killed off as early as tESB, I find it hard to believe that he lobbied to have Solo in more than just episode VII. seems odd to me.
Perhaps what really happened is that he had to agree to multiple SW sequels in order to get the Indiana Jones sequel he really wanted.
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Originally Posted by RocShemp
Perhaps what really happened is that he had to agree to multiple SW sequels in order to get the Indiana Jones sequel he really wanted.
That was my take on the news also. The Indy character seems to resonate with him more.



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Has everybody seen the test footage from the lost laserdisc? It's making all the news sites and the new Disney/LFL alliance doesn't seem to be doing a thing to shut it down or send copyright notices. That plus the every-Wednesday-trailer-release we've been seeing have really got me thinking we're going to see something interesting tomorrow. I know we've burned so many times with SW in the past, but I think the new management really understands what the fans want to see.
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Originally Posted by RocShemp
Perhaps what really happened is that he had to agree to multiple SW sequels in order to get the Indiana Jones sequel he really wanted.
That is what I'm guessing. Do 3 Star Wars movies, and you get your Indy 5. Either way, its a win-win for the Mouse.
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Originally Posted by milo bloom
Has everybody seen the test footage from the lost laserdisc? It's making all the news sites and the new Disney/LFL alliance doesn't seem to be doing a thing to shut it down or send copyright notices. That plus the every-Wednesday-trailer-release we've been seeing have really got me thinking we're going to see something interesting tomorrow.
The laserdisc footage was mentioned in the Star Wars Blu-ray Thread, but not here.

News article on it:
http://gizmodo.com/long-lost-laserdi...s-s-1451058117

The Facebook page with the video clips from the laserdisc:
https://www.facebook.com/rotjeditdroid

And a clip from a documentary about the EditDroid system the laserdisc was created to demonstrate:
http://vimeo.com/4398241
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So is the news that's supposed to break this week a thing confirmed, or just fan speculation?
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Originally Posted by hanshotfirst113
So is the news that's supposed to break this week a thing confirmed, or just fan speculation?
Just fan speculation at this point.
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Will James Earl Jones return as well? Hope so.
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Will James Earl Jones return as well? Hope so.
Why would he return? Vader died in the previous episode.
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If Harrison does 3 more Star Wars and one more Indiana Jones, my guess is that he'll probably bank close to 100 Million dollars when all is said and done.
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According to wikipedia, Ford is 71 years old.

With 2-3 years between Star Wars movies, we won't see Episode IX until 2020. Ford will be 78 then.

The next Indiana Jones movie would likely be another 2-3 years after Episode IX. Ford will be 80 in that movie.
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Originally Posted by taffer
According to wikipedia, Ford is 71 years old.

With 2-3 years between Star Wars movies, we won't see Episode IX until 2020. Ford will be 78 then.

The next Indiana Jones movie would likely be another 2-3 years after Episode IX. Ford will be 80 in that movie.
You do realize that Ford can easily shoot the next Indy movie at the same time as he shoots one of these SW sequels, right?
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Originally Posted by RocShemp
You do realize that Ford can easily shoot the next Indy movie at the same time as he shoots one of these SW sequels, right?
Well yeah. I just like to speculate on an 80 year old Indiana Jones.
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He could be 80 and I'd still happily watch Indiana Jones versus Bubba Ho-Tep.
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Also how much screentime will Han have? It's not like he'll have to carry the film like he does as Indy.
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So is the news that's supposed to break this week a thing confirmed, or just fan speculation?
still speculation. tomorrow is d-day
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Originally Posted by Oliver Clothesoff
still speculation. tomorrow is d-day
I'll check the forum on my lunch break then.
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Originally Posted by Supermallet
That's fine, but it still is fair for many who were disappointed by the prequels to say that they will wait for reviews.
Normally I'd agree with this, but Star Wars is such an iconic franchise I find it a bit naive to think many people will wait on reviews. Maybe some will follow your lead but the fact that Lucas has absolutely no input on this has people more curious than feeling they got burned by the shitty prequels.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII (2015, D: Abrams, S: The casts of Star Trek, Lost, Felicit

Exactly. Once that trailer hits with the original cast, practical effects, etc., it's gonna reignite what the prequels didn't. I don't think Disney has anything to worry about in regards to people being burned by the prequels. Sure there will be a handful of holdouts but they will be few.
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The thought of Harrison Ford being EIGHTY when Star Wars IX and Indy 5 are completed is mind-boggling.
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Originally Posted by Supermallet
That's fine, but it still is fair for many who were disappointed by the prequels to say that they will wait for reviews.
This is an interesting argument, but I actually think the ST will benefit from the fans getting burned from the PT.

I can only speak for my friends (as I hate to generalize about people on the internet who I have never met).

When I told all of my friends who are SW fans (we all grew up with the OT from 77-83), NONE of them were excited. When I said that Han, Luke, and Leia were coming back for atleast a cameo, that did get them curious.

So the big hook to getting the fans to Episode 7 'who were burned by the PT' is OT nostalgia and low expectations. ALL of them went into the PT with huge expectations and it was a total letdown for most of them, whereas they will be walking in the ST with NO expectations expecting to get burned, and I think they will be pleasantly suprised.

I have been arguing for 20 years with my friends that the ST was an easier sell to the mass SW fans then the PT. Despite what we all think of the bad quality of the PT, its still not an easy sell to fans because you are essentially watching a trilogy of movies about a guy going bad. That's maybe cool for one movie, but 3 movies? At some point, you have to root for someone or there is a disconnect among the characters and the audience.

Whereas the ST is a continuation of the story about rooting for the good guys, and it is a more practical story. We will be rooting for Han, Luke and Leia for 3 more movies along with their kids, and fans will be able to gravitate and identify with someone out of that group that you will actually care about.

In theory, Anakin's story might seem cool about a guy going bad, but in the end, there was no one to really root for, so you end up with this niche base of hardcore PT fans who gravitated to this evil guy. Putting aside how Lucas fucked up the Anakin character (making him a whiney doucebag), after you watch him slaughter everyone in the last movie, it doesn't really sit well with you. The ST will be the total opposite as the average SW fan will be able to identify with these characters, and that is why I feel it will be much more a success.

In saying that, if you are expecting the ST to equal the OT, don't even bother going. Nothing will equal the OT (or atleast SW'77 & ESB quality), because it is very rare for a movie franchise or a TV franchise to keep churning great sequels after great sequels where eventually the quality has to drop.

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