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Old 07-29-14, 02:12 PM
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) (D: Snyder; S: Gadot)

How'd that work out? I know they mucked a lot of continuity in the series. The films and show are connected too, no?
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) (D: Snyder; S: Gadot)

Originally Posted by Maxflier
A soft reboot would be a horrible idea. Either go all-in or don't, but keeping certain things in continuity and leaving out others is crazy IMO.
This is exactly what they did with the new 52 Batman, though; previous creative team was popular, but they were rebooting everything so they kept bits and pieces. I can't wait to see Ryan Reynolds back as GL in Justice League, at this point...

Also Highlander 2 doesn't exist. It just doesn't.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) (D: Snyder; S: Gadot)

who is the villain supposed to be in this movie??
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) (D: Snyder; S: Gadot)

Originally Posted by wlj
who is the villain supposed to be in this movie??
Lex Luthor has been cast.

But the real villain will be fanboy expectations.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) (D: Snyder; S: Gadot)

It's my understanding that Batfleck is a soft reboot of the Batman seen in Nolan's trilogy.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) (D: Snyder; S: Gadot)

Originally Posted by PhantomStranger
It's my understanding that Batfleck is a soft reboot of the Batman seen in Nolan's trilogy.

that is a mistake. i think it is too soon to reboot the character honestly, but I think a soft reboot is a poor decision. For instance, if it is a continuation of the first films...who will the upcoming villains be? Joker is in Arkham Asylum I am sure, but Heath Ledger is dead. I can't see the Joker being brought back with a different actor if this batman is "related" to the nolan films.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) (D: Snyder; S: Gadot)

Again, until we hear it from the cast or, especially, writers and director, one can't go off of Internet rumor.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) (D: Snyder; S: Gadot)

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How'd that work out? I know they mucked a lot of continuity in the series. The films and show are connected too, no?
Nothing is connected. The only thing the series and sequels have in common is that the first movie happened but the Gathering did not. Even Highlander Endgame managed to both negate all the movies (and the ending of the first) and the TV series as well (immortals killed on Holy Ground without negative consequences and Duncan no longer having a no-love curse being prime examples). The comics also tried to marry the movie and TV continuities but it still doesn't work.

The Highlander franchise is a huge clusterfuck in terms of continuity. And rightly so. The first movie tells a self-contained story with a definite ending. There should have been no sequels, just prequels featuring Ramirez and the other immortals before the Gathering.

Originally Posted by fujishig
Also Highlander 2 doesn't exist. It just doesn't.
I love it for how batshit insane it is. And Michael Ironside makes it a hoot, along with Sean Connery's "you wouldn't believe how much they paid me for this shit" grin. Is it a worthy followup to Highlander? Fuck no. But it's such a delightful mess of a movie on its own.
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When the premise is "There can be only one" and then the movie goes out and makes sure that happens, you're right that there shouldn't have been any sequels (only prequels) and certainly not one that goes into the sci-fi realm and introduces another planet and some planetary shield and some other crap. I remember as a kid being so excited to rent it, too. "Hey, if it was bad, Sean Connery wouldn't have agreed to come back, right?" Ah, youth.
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I remember reading the soft reboot thing that suggested some sort of tie to like 2.5 of the 3 Nolan films and I don't think it was every really alleged to be from a credible source.

Expecting an audience to accept half of TDKR and disregard the other half is dumb even by Hollywood standards but wholly believable coming from the mind of some anonymous fanboy.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) (D: Snyder; S: Gadot)

Originally Posted by fujishig
When the premise is "There can be only one" and then the movie goes out and makes sure that happens, you're right that there shouldn't have been any sequels (only prequels) and certainly not one that goes into the sci-fi realm and introduces another planet and some planetary shield and some other crap. I remember as a kid being so excited to rent it, too. "Hey, if it was bad, Sean Connery wouldn't have agreed to come back, right?" Ah, youth.
I guess, at the time, we both forgot about this masterpiece.

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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) (D: Snyder; S: Gadot)

I still haven't seen that one. What is it about?
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) (D: Snyder; S: Gadot)

Batman V Superman was the most talked about film at Comic Con
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Teen Wolf was "talked about" 3rd most, with Supernatural at 6th, and more than half of the twitter correspondents were female. That seems a bit questionable to me, but I've never seen Teen Wolf, nor even heard mention of whatever announcement they had.
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It's based off of Twitter statistics, and Twitter, perhaps social media in general, seems to be much more popular among young (attention-seeking?) females.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) (D: Snyder; S: Gadot)

But they had nothing to show!!!!
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Originally Posted by DaveyJoe
It's based off of Twitter statistics, and Twitter, perhaps social media in general, seems to be much more popular among young (attention-seeking?) females.
Probably true. I know times have changed and people of all sorts go to Comicon now from all kinds of different industries, but I doubt if you took a sampling of Comic con fans in attendance, that you'd end up with more than half being female and Teen Wolf being the third hottest topic. But what do I know? Certainly the WW reveal being tweeted out also helped the film's standing in terms of retweets.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) (D: Snyder; S: Gadot)

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But they had nothing to show!!!!
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Originally Posted by RocShemp
The first movie tells a self-contained story with a definite ending. There should have been no sequels, just prequels featuring Ramirez and the other immortals before the Gathering.
What's amazing to me is that prequels were the obvious solution, but they bent over backwards to avoid that. Highlander II came up with a ridiculous and convoluted explanation for why the ending of the first movie didn't count, and the rest of the sequels and TV shows just ignored the issue entirely. All they had to do was make sure that every follow-up took place before 1985 and they were golden. It boggles the mind.
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Originally Posted by fumanstan
But they had nothing to show!!!!
I know, right?
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What's amazing to me is that prequels were the obvious solution, but they bent over backwards to avoid that. Highlander II came up with a ridiculous and convoluted explanation for why the ending of the first movie didn't count, and the rest of the sequels and TV shows just ignored the issue entirely. All they had to do was make sure that every follow-up took place before 1985 and they were golden. It boggles the mind.
Not defending them, but weren't prequels not very common during this time frame? I can't think of any prequels to successful movies from the 80's off the top of my head.
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This was before the 80s, but Godfather pt. 2...
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) (D: Snyder; S: Gadot)

Originally Posted by Lara Means
Leaked storyboard

Spoiler:
The look of horror on Batman's face is priceless, lol!



What I don't get is why does it matter if there's continuity, or if this is a hard or soft reboot? I mean, when I played Arkham City I wasn't thinking "now which Batman is this? Why is Bane alive? I'm totally lost here!" It's goddamn Batman. We all know who he is, what his story is, and who his villains are. He can transcend any rigid storyline of previous films, games and books. It will still make sense and attract fans.

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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) (D: Snyder; S: Gadot)

Originally Posted by JTH182
What I don't get is why does it matter if there's continuity, or if this is a hard or soft reboot? I mean, when I played Arkham City I wasn't thinking "now which Batman is this? Why is Bane alive? I'm totally lost here!" It's goddamn Batman. We all know who he is, what his story is, and who his villains are. He can transcend any rigid storyline of previous films, games and books. It will still make sense and attract fans.
It matters because the premise is that this same version of the character is going to appear in potentially several more movies. Do you expect them to reboot the character for each new movie now?
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) (D: Snyder; S: Gadot)

I don't give a shit if they totally ignore Nolan's trilogy. I'm looking forward to a less brooding, more comic booky Batman.


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