Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) (D: Snyder; S: Gadot)
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) (D: Snyder; S: Gadot)
You realize Batman is more popular than all Marvel characters put together with the exception of Spider-Man? The bloated Dark Knight Rises had an opening weekend gun massacre and still easily sailed past $1 billion in box office. It's beginning to look like Ben Affleck might be the best Batman ever.
And I'm a huge Affleck fan but...what? The best Batman ever? Based on what? His face in the cowl? Which...according to that teaser, appears to be taking some cues from Iron Man too?
Marvel had a solid plan and the payoff was The Avengers, one of the most successful movies ever. Based on characters that aren't as well known as the big ones. DC has absolutely NO plan and is throwing everything they can into this movie to catch up. The odds of this working out better than The Avengers are extremely slim. Plus...Age of Ultron may surpass the original too, so then this thing has an even bigger hill to climb.
#3955
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) (D: Snyder; S: Gadot)
Y
While it might be true that it was more necessary for Marvel to build up their individual characters beforehand there's not a doubt in my mind that doing so absolutely worked in favor of The Avengers. I've said it before many times but it really looks like DC is just throwing things together and hoping that it works out and has no clear plan in mind. That's what bothers me. I'm more of a DC fan and to have the first real attempt at an expanded universe just being a hodge podge of characters thrown together with no clear direction bothers me.
While it might be true that it was more necessary for Marvel to build up their individual characters beforehand there's not a doubt in my mind that doing so absolutely worked in favor of The Avengers. I've said it before many times but it really looks like DC is just throwing things together and hoping that it works out and has no clear plan in mind. That's what bothers me. I'm more of a DC fan and to have the first real attempt at an expanded universe just being a hodge podge of characters thrown together with no clear direction bothers me.
Marvel had a solid plan and the payoff was The Avengers, one of the most successful movies ever. Based on characters that aren't as well known as the big ones. DC has absolutely NO plan and is throwing everything they can into this movie to catch up. The odds of this working out better than The Avengers are extremely slim. Plus...Age of Ultron may surpass the original too, so then this thing has an even bigger hill to climb.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) (D: Snyder; S: Gadot)
The marketing for these movies seems more and more like an election year campaign every day.
#3958
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) (D: Snyder; S: Gadot)
That's what I don't get, seems like they could make July next year if they wanted to (although the calendar is prob filled up at this point). MOS did have a longer post production as well though. I guess that means JL shoots next summer/fall?
#3959
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) (D: Snyder; S: Gadot)
The timing isn't that big of a deal since it's 3 years in between MOS and BvS. In fact, I remember folks, when a 2015 release date was announced, felt 2 years in between was rushing things... And now people are complaining it's too much time.
#3960
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) (D: Snyder; S: Gadot)
You want them to rush this? There were rumors that Affleck was bringing in his people to improve the script. I'd rather have them take their time if it means a better movie.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) (D: Snyder; S: Gadot)
Here's a better one without the filters that someone on another forums posted, looks pretty awesome to me:
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#3962
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) (D: Snyder; S: Gadot)
So, my question is -- is the Batman in this movie the same Batman in the Nolan films (minus Bale)? Or are they rebooting the Batman character again?
I am excited to see this for sure. However, I just don't understand how these 2 could really work together? I mean, Superman is superman. Batman is just a billionaire with cool gadgets and fighting skills. I mean, lets say something bad happens across town -- Superman can be there within seconds and have the problem taken care of before Batman could get there on the batmobile.
I wish they would have done a Man of Steel 2 with just Superman and a new Batman film with Affleck --- THEN do the combo movie.
That is just me though.
I am excited to see this for sure. However, I just don't understand how these 2 could really work together? I mean, Superman is superman. Batman is just a billionaire with cool gadgets and fighting skills. I mean, lets say something bad happens across town -- Superman can be there within seconds and have the problem taken care of before Batman could get there on the batmobile.
I wish they would have done a Man of Steel 2 with just Superman and a new Batman film with Affleck --- THEN do the combo movie.
That is just me though.
#3963
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) (D: Snyder; S: Gadot)
There hasn't been confirmation either way but I think the consensus is this is a different Batman with no continuity to the Nolan-verse.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) (D: Snyder; S: Gadot)
You realize Batman is more popular than all Marvel characters put together with the exception of Spider-Man? The bloated Dark Knight Rises had an opening weekend gun massacre and still easily sailed past $1 billion in box office. It's beginning to look like Ben Affleck might be the best Batman ever.
And i concur that i am really not sure where you are getting the idea that Affleck might be the best Batman ever. I like the guy and i am sure he will work out great, but to be honest i think there are at least a couple of other actors who played the role that did excellent jobs.
I am certainly a bigger fan of Marvel characters, but i hope to enjoy a set of DC movies based off their characters just as much. I just wish they were taking it at a steadier pace and building up as Marvel did with their franchises. I guess after Green Lantern bombed and then the Wonder Woman TV show got canned they felt they needed to strike while the iron was hot after the MoS and the end of the Dark Knight Trilogy.
#3965
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) (D: Snyder; S: Gadot)
Rewatched MoS last night since my wife hasn't seen it. First time since I saw it in the theater. The pa Kent scenes were even more cringe inducing now that I was expecting them, though I was at least prepared for all the destruction (I did forget about the fleeing civilians, though... I think I was half convinced by people who said the buildings were obviously deserted, but they made it a point to show civilians everywhere).
Anyway, dead horse beat. What I came here to say was that I completely forgot they went with an older Superman too (33 years old at the start of his ministry, er, I mean superheroing). So an older Batman makes sense. And for all the problems I had with MoS, I thought the casting was great, so I'm willing to see where they go with this next one. Really, I think you could have started with a Batman vs. Superman movie and the buzz would have been pretty positive (wait, you're getting Superman vs. Batman, with cameos by the Justice League? Awesome!), it's almost like MoS and having this be initially announced as a sequel started a lot of rancor.
Anyway, dead horse beat. What I came here to say was that I completely forgot they went with an older Superman too (33 years old at the start of his ministry, er, I mean superheroing). So an older Batman makes sense. And for all the problems I had with MoS, I thought the casting was great, so I'm willing to see where they go with this next one. Really, I think you could have started with a Batman vs. Superman movie and the buzz would have been pretty positive (wait, you're getting Superman vs. Batman, with cameos by the Justice League? Awesome!), it's almost like MoS and having this be initially announced as a sequel started a lot of rancor.
#3966
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) (D: Snyder; S: Gadot)
Last I recall, this is a "soft" reboot using the Nolan films as a loose backstory. Everything up to TDKR sort of happened except the major changes are that Bane didn't die, Bruce didn't fake his death, and Talia wasn't involved. At least that was the rumour a few months ago.
#3967
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) (D: Snyder; S: Gadot)
Last I recall, this is a "soft" reboot using the Nolan films as a loose backstory. Everything up to TDKR sort of happened except the major changes are that Bane didn't die, Bruce didn't fake his death, and Talia wasn't involved. At least that was the rumour a few months ago.
#3968
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) (D: Snyder; S: Gadot)
A soft reboot would be a horrible idea. Either go all-in or don't, but keeping certain things in continuity and leaving out others is crazy IMO.
#3969
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) (D: Snyder; S: Gadot)
Last I recall, this is a "soft" reboot using the Nolan films as a loose backstory. Everything up to TDKR sort of happened except the major changes are that Bane didn't die, Bruce didn't fake his death, and Talia wasn't involved. At least that was the rumour a few months ago.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) (D: Snyder; S: Gadot)
Until the movie comes out, and we get interviews (where presumably the question will pop up), I won't trust any of these rumors.
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Re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) (D: Snyder; S: Gadot)
It all depends on how many cues they are taking from the graphic novel. If they intend to portray him as at or near 50, then yeah, that will create a big problem for many people looking toward future continuity movies.
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