dan30oly

Please no more pics of Paul Patton. I can't unsee that.

Solid Snake

I don't really pay attention to a woman's bellybutton but Patton's is pretty good looking.

stingermck

Yup

Solid Snake

I do wonder though what it was like before the change though. Soderbergh may say that cuz he's a pro but maybe her voice wasn't cutting it? Either way. Good flick, reminded me of a 70s flick.

slop101

Nope.

That's just some PR bullshit to cover up the fact that Laura San Giacomo dubbed over her voice. Just listen to Carano's voice and speaking style in interviews and compare it to the movie. Heck, look at her lips. It goes so beyond being "altered", that anyone who believes that is an idiot.

DaveyJoe

I believe it. Reported.

Solid Snake

Post work can be an amazing thing. It isn't hard to believe that they altered her voice. If she did have someone dub in on her, well that's another thing. I haven't seen it mentioned though.

Groucho

Groucho Note: personal attacks against other members are not tolerated. Wait...DaveyJoe? Carry on, then.

DaveyJoe

Solid Snake

Alright. That's probably the best Groucho has been in a long time. Well done.

RocShemp

Actually, that was misinformation. It turns out she ADR'ed all her lines and they did some slight vocal manipulation to make her voice sound deeper.

EDIT: I see this was already covered.

taffer

That's not all of it. Aquaman says right after that he doesn't "talk" talk to fish because their brains are too primitive for actual conversation, but he does communicate with them.

fujishig

So he basically manipulates them telepathically instead of getting their consent.

I'm trying to think of a superhero movie that didn't involve an origin for both heroes and villains at least somewhere in the films.

Obi-Wanma

X-Men didn't really have an origin story (except for the abbreviated Magneto WWII opening) until First Class came along.

Giantrobo

Wait, how does Aquaman NOT have Gills? I thought the whole deal was he had both Gills and Lungs?

The Valeyard

Wasn't there a Pre-Crisis story where the fishes stopped doing what Aquaman said. He eventually came to an agreement with them that they would only help if he asked nicely instead of commanding.

Maybe it was Post-Crisis. Or I could have imagined the whole thing.

DaveyJoe

He absorbs oxygen from the water into his skin and exhales through his anus.

Tom Creo

Man this "Superman" sequel gets better and better.

fujishig

See, that's why we need to add him and his origin to this movie.

Didn't some site claim that the whales in MOS were like an Aquaman cameo? Please.

I remember in Waid's JLA Year One, nobody could understand what he was saying because he spoke so softly, being used to communicating under water.

The reason he's not taken as seriously as Namor, despite the latter's costume consisting of scales on a speedo and Vulcan ears? Because Namor had a personality from the start. Aquaman has had some runs where some writers (notably Peter David) have tried to inject personality into him, or made him this brooding Namor-like grump, but it never sticks. Plus, at best he's a specialist... 75% of the world may be made out of water, but 90% of the action in comic books happens on land, or in space, or nowhere near water, so he's like Seaspray or Wetsuit, really really useful in his environment and eh, we'll call you, don't call us when he's not.

That's a lot of words about Aquaman. In any case, it'll be interesting to see how Guardians of the Galaxy does, a film which is basically introducing not only a bunch of new characters but new species and a ton of other crap, and hopefully wont go too much into origins and just run with the zaniness.

Tom Creo

No comparing GotG to this dour project. There's no "fun" in the buzz. Just, "we gotta do this" and we gotta introduce her, him, etc.". Lotta weight on DC's shoulders.

Giantrobo

Nerds love creating Cameos where there are none. I remember Marvel Fanboys saying the thunder and lightning in the Hulk reboot was Thor flying over the cave he was in.

slop101

No, and I'm telling you that was PR bullshit. Just read her response again, she doesn't actually say that they kept her voice. Trust me on this, I know people who did post-production on it.

Tom Creo

I dunno. I thought saw a shadow of Loki's codpiece discretely displayed on Betty's face during that scene.

taffer

I know you're a huge DC fanboy too, but I have never once read a comic where it was said or implied that Aquaman had gills. Its never shown in the artwork either.


There was a storyarc in the 90s where one of Aquaman's enemies stole his ability to communicate with fish. Then the enemy stuck Aquaman's hand into a pool of piranhas, and the piranhas ate his hand. Aquaman got a hook/spear hand after that. It sounds lame, but Peter David was the writer then and he has always been a great writer.




Don't forget Namor also has fricking wings on his ankles. WINGS ON HIS ANKLES, and Aquaman is the lame one?

Also, he may do better in water, but its not like he's useless on land. He has superhuman strength, endurance, reflexes, etc. He is more practical and more logical in a fight against supervillains like Darkseid, than someone like Batman who has no superhuman powers at all.

Solid Snake

That was pretty much the thing that separated the two in quality. Namor has a personality that you don't forget. Such a prick who always wants to fuck Sue Storm. They guy would turn on humanity if he needed to. Always loved how he was presented in Marvels. That was the first time that I saw that era told in such a way. Love that issue so much. Still wish we could have had an Invaders film.