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Old 11-10-13, 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
I just find it odd that some are unwilling to concede even a 1% chance that this could work another way than the approach Marvel took. It's either the Marvel way or it will suck, which is absurd.
It's like I said earlier though. If the way you think it should be done is the correct way of going about the Justice League film what is the point in really making it? If it's only going to be focusing on Batman and Superman anyways and the other characters are just in the background just because they want to call it the Justice League what is the point? DC wanting to be like Marvel and try and make a film like The Avengers and hope that they'll make a lot of money off of it? To me that's just dumb and I doubt it would really work that well anyways. If they want to do that why not just make Batman and Superman team up movies and scrap the Justice League idea because apparently it doesn't really matter anyways? Either do it right or don't do it at all is my mentality on it.
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Originally Posted by Mike86
It's like I said earlier though. If the way you think it should be done is the correct way of going about the Justice League film what is the point in really making it? If it's only going to be focusing on Batman and Superman anyways and the other characters are just in the background just because they want to call it the Justice League what is the point? DC wanting to be like Marvel and try and make a film like The Avengers and hope that they'll make a lot of money off of it? To me that's just dumb and I doubt it would really work that well anyways. If they want to do that why not just make Batman and Superman team up movies and scrap the Justice League idea because apparently it doesn't really matter anyways? Either do it right or don't do it at all is my mentality on it.
Name of the Justice League movie revealed:

Batman and Superman and the Rest of the Justice League Second Tier Losers
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Name of the Justice League movie revealed:

Batman and Superman and the Rest of the Justice League Second Tier Losers
That was offensive to many anal fans so it was retitled Batman & Superman: First League. Michael Fassbender was cast as Aquaman.
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Marvel has had a comic titled Wolverine and the X-Men for a few years now. I am honest to gosh surprised DC hasn't come out with Batman and the Justice League yet.
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Originally Posted by taffer
Marvel has had a comic titled Wolverine and the X-Men for a few years now.
You know that's actually the title of one of the early drafts for the first X-Men movie?
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You know that's actually the title of one of the early drafts for the first X-Men movie?
Makes sense considering that X-Men (and X2 and X-Men: The Last Stand for that matter) are basically Wolverine centered films with the rest of the X-Men not seeming as important. Part of the reason why I don't really care for the original trilogy of those films and have enjoyed X-Men: First Class, X-Men Origins: Wolverine, and The Wolverine way more.
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Originally Posted by Mike86
I don't really care for the original trilogy of those films and have enjoyed way more X-Men Origins: Wolverine
You liked the aformentioned movie more than Singer's X-Men 2?


Too be fair, I don't think any of the X-Men/Wolverines movies are great. A couple of good ones, but nothing mind blowing thus far.
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Originally Posted by Mike86
Makes sense considering that X-Men (and X2 and X-Men: The Last Stand for that matter) are basically Wolverine centered films with the rest of the X-Men not seeming as important. Part of the reason why I don't really care for the original trilogy of those films and have enjoyed X-Men: First Class, X-Men Origins: Wolverine, and The Wolverine way more.
You didn't like the original trilogy because it was too Wolverine centric, but you liked the two Wolverine movies because they weren't Wolverine centric?
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You didn't like the original trilogy because it was too Wolverine centric, but you liked the two Wolverine movies because they weren't Wolverine centric?
That confused me as well. But I guess he means that the Wolverine movies segregate Logan from the X-Men and are genuinely his movies. By contrast, the X-Men movies masquerade at being ensemble pictures but are really Wolverine-centric movies where the X-Men guest star.
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Originally Posted by RocShemp
That confused me as well. But I guess he means that the Wolverine movies segregate Logan from the X-Men and are genuinely his movies. By contrast, the X-Men movies masquerade at being ensemble pictures but are really Wolverine-centric movies where the X-Men guest star.
Yep exactly this. I have no problem with Wolverine as a character being the main focus of his own films but the original trilogy in my opinion should have focused on the other X-Men more as well as him. To me they were too Wolverine heavy.
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I didnt like First Class because it was too Beast heavy.
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Originally Posted by Mike86
If the way you think it should be done is the correct way of going about the Justice League film what is the point in really making it?
Thanks for proving my point.
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I didnt like First Class because it was too Beast heavy.
You hate fur or carpets?
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If the artwork from the Kevin Smith fan event or whatever is any indication then it looks like they are going to use the oldschool blue and gray suit for Batman.


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re: Untitled Superman & Batman Film (2015) (D: Snyder; S: Cavill, Affleck)

I hope they use the exact same suit Adam West wore... but with a massive cod-piece.
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Think they'll use the same muted colors as they did in MoS or they dark look of the recent Batman Trilogy?
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re: Untitled Superman & Batman Film (2015) (D: Snyder; S: Cavill, Affleck)

Originally Posted by Maxflier
If the artwork from the Kevin Smith fan event or whatever is any indication then it looks like they are going to use the oldschool blue and gray suit for Batman.


It's not. The images were created specifically to raise money and the brief was simply for the artists to respond to the Superman plus Batman notion of the next film.
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Thanks for proving my point.
Okay? Why didn't you say that to start then?
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I did:
Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
I just find it odd that some are unwilling to concede even a 1% chance that this could work another way than the approach Marvel took. It's either the Marvel way or it will suck, which is absurd.
You are under the assumption there is only one true & correct way to make a Justice League movie, and that is inherently wrong.
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I think they will use a costume that looks similar to Superman's but with a darker color palette. It won't be a tactical uniform like in the Bale films.
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Originally Posted by Mike86
Makes sense considering that X-Men (and X2 and X-Men: The Last Stand for that matter) are basically Wolverine centered films with the rest of the X-Men not seeming as important. Part of the reason why I don't really care for the original trilogy of those films and have enjoyed X-Men: First Class, X-Men Origins: Wolverine, and The Wolverine way more.
In the case of the first movie, I agree to some extent, although Wolverine and Rogue serve more as an entry point for the audience into the film's world. Even then, you get some stuff about Magneto's experiences in the Holocaust or Rogue's struggle with her powers. The second movie though? I do think that one does broaden the scope quite a bit, you get a lot of stuff about Iceman's family, Magneto and his motivations, Stryker, and even some backstory bits for Nightcrawler. I think that the hint was that if Singer had stayed on for the third movie, it would've gone into a lot more depth about Jean's origins and her relationship with Cyclops (Though even in 3, we do get some stuff about her backstrory with Eric and Charles, etc.). Still, because he's obviously the most popular character, Wolverine does tend to get too much screen time, but I think that in that context, Singer does try to use him somewhat sparingly when he can, trying to offer more hints than outright explanations about him. There so many characters that many inevitably get lost in the shuffle though. Most of Magneto's henchmen-Sabertooth, Toad-pretty much exist only to be antagonists, Deathstrike is just a living weapon with no dialogue, and some of the X-Men themselves got pretty short-changed (Storm, and especially Cyclops, though I think they'd finally have used him if they'd gone through with the Phoenix story they way they originally would have).

Anyway, while I'm not exactly all that warm on the idea of Affleck as Batman, I'm more concerned about Snyder and Goyer. I was totally unimpressed with Man of Steel, and this time Nolan isn't even around as producer to buffer the excesses. The idea here-combine the two most well-known superheroes ever, who have a great history of cool teamups, and use it to lead into Justice League-is a cool idea, I'm just real lukewarm on the actual talent involved. Who knows though, maybe they'll learn from their mistakes last time and deliver a masterpiece. One never knows. Plus, they're shooting it near me, so maybe I'll be able to see some of that. That might be kind of cool. Doubt it though .

Originally Posted by Why So Blu?
I think they will use a costume that looks similar to Superman's but with a darker color palette. It won't be a tactical uniform like in the Bale films.
At least Nolan's idea for Batman's costume was to give it practical functionality. Since Superman is invulnerable to harm, he really can design his costume entirely for aesthetic purposes .
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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
I did:


You are under the assumption there is only one true & correct way to make a Justice League movie, and that is inherently wrong.
I misunderstood what you meant with your comment and don't think you proved a point and just glossed over my point which was that you want a Justice League movie that essentially is Batman and Superman centric with the others not mattering much anyways, so why exactly is it a Justice League movie? Also I never said there's only one way to do it just that I think doing it how you think it should be done seems pretty half assed.

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From comingsoon.net;

This weekend, Warner Bros. held their Man of Steel onlinefan event to promote the upcoming Blu-ray release of the film, and while director Zack Snyder shared a few details on the highly-anticipated sequel, it was what came later that was truly exciting. On another episode of his Hollywood Babble-On podcast (via CBM), director Kevin Smith revealed that Zack Snyder showed him a picture of the Batman costume for the follow-up film, Batman vs. Superman.

"I saw the Batman costume. More than that I saw a picture of him (Affleck) in the costume. Now, I don't want to give anything away 'cause that is up to them and stuff, but I am going to say this, I instantly bear hugged him (Snyder). You have not seen this costume in a movie on film before, and for a comic book fan it was mind bending. I was like 'Get out of here, only you have enough power to pull this off.' Because everyone always like does this Matrix/X-Men black armor...It was fantastic. I'm already a flag waver for this movie, but the costume, it blew my mind. I think everyone is just gonna be like 'Holy ****!' It's its own thing, man. It's like we haven't been down this path at all. I was so elated....Even the hardest core “**** all this” person will be like 'alright, I'm ready.'"

Smith also mentioned the costume has a certain influence on its style, but redacted that portion of his praise. Will it be based on Frank Miller's The Dark Knight Returns? Something else? What do you think the costume will look like? Sound off below!

Batman vs. Superman will feature the return of Henry Cavill as Superman, facing off against Ben Affleck as Bruce Wayne/Batman. Also starring Amy Adams, Diane Lane and Laurence Fishburne, the Zack Snyder directed Batman vs. Superman hits theaters on July 17, 2015.
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re: Untitled Superman & Batman Film (2015) (D: Snyder; S: Cavill, Affleck)

I imagine they will go with the bulky costume from The Dark Knight Returns. It really looks nothing like the other Bat costumes. The design screams '80s fashion, so I wonder how it will be modified for the screen.
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Please be the Arkham Origin's suit.


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