Iron_Giant

I like the idea of Intergang using Darkseid weapons with Wayne Industry parts in them.
-This is how Bats gets to Metropolis
-The weapons can hurt Supes, maybe Darkseid has Kryptonite in the weapons
(Darkseid can be the one that changes the Krypton Rocks into Kryptonite, a way to kill Superman)
-Supes thinks Bats is the one running the guns and thats how they get in a fight

Artman

While there probably won't be much backstory rehash, it's pretty crazy to think that less time will have passed between re-casting Batman (3yrs) vs the time between DK and DKR (4yrs).

Paul_SD

Wonder Woman would have far more thematic relevance in a MoS sequel than a Batman would.
Despite the trappings in MoS, the character still falls down more on the side of magical fantasy which is completely in line with a magical warrior from a lost civilization.
By contrast Batman is someone whose actions are entirely dependent on technology, and whose detective skills can roughly be duplicated by anyone with time and an internet connection.

I guarantee all the criticism that MoS got for the amount of destruction and Superman's seeming indifference to it will be the narratives rationale for bringing Batman in, in the capacity of a check to his power.
However a Wonder Woman would not only be a better match in terms of raw power, but the gender difference would allow the filmmakers to address another complaint about MoS in that it was too cold.
Allowing for a Batman in the narrative is continuing to drag Superman's story down into drearier, dour tonality.
Wonder Woman in the narrative could be an antidote for the problems many of us saw with MoS.
Batman, OTOH, is just doubling down on what a lot of us already disliked (and a good reason this film did about 25% less than it could/should have)

To me, this is akin to rewriting Days Of Future Past to make Wolverine the central character.

hanshotfirst1138

On the commentary on the DVD, Alan Burnett describes the whole thing as "building blocks, two characters who don't belong in each others worlds." Certainly, the DCAU version of Batman doesn't have many gizmos, travel through time, etc., but they really make it work well.

It was actually about 60 minutes, it originally aired a three-parter, midway thought the second season of Superman: The Animated Series to serve as the launching point for reintroducing Batman into the new revamped DCAU and as the backdoor pilot for The New Batman Adventures.

Timm and friends had trouble with the censors here and there, their share of it actually, but I don't think their more maturely toned stuff feels gratuitous. Even as a kid, I always preferred his darker take to the campy stuff in the Schumacher and West movies.

Is that Alex Ross?

They need a good director and screenwriter. Goyer is workable if he has a director and/or writer who can rework some of his more clunky ideas and dialogue (Norrington, del Toro, Nolan), but while he make very pretty films, I sometimes wonder if Zach Snyder ever had an idea in his life. The two approached clashed in Man of Steel, and I was left with a good film trying to get out somewhere. This is going to depend on the talent involved.

WB have tried to reboot Superman now not once, but twice. Both times, the results have been middling, artistically and financially. They obviousy have abandoned the idea of Superman being financially viable by himself.

Or recast Hal Jordon with an actor more suited to the character.

I'd settle for trades of John Ostrander's run.

Was that comic any good? DC kick Miligan off after one arc, it seems anyone outside of Geoff Johns has trouble staying on a book for more than 3-6 months.

I don't think that he should never be used again, but I do think Ledger has made a pretty tough act to follow.

redrum

how will they make a fight between Supeman and Batman believable in a film?Especially without kryptonite involved, Superman could snap his neck in 2 secs, obviously he wouldn't do that but you know

PhantomStranger

My guess is that Batman will heavily rely on military hardware in any direct conflict with Superman. I doubt we see hand-to-hand physical combat between the two, the differences in their powers will become immediately apparent in live action combat.

Frank Miller pretty much ruined Superman in Dark Knight Returns. Up until that point, Batman was always superfluous in his team-ups with Superman.

Lots of people are expecting this movie to be titled "Batman Vs Superman."

Paul_SD

Batman will always have the advantage because his suit is so scary looking.
I'm sure when the bad guys even talk about him a cold chill runs up and down their spine...as opposed to laughing amongst themselves at how ridiculous he looks getting all dressed up in a Halloween costume just to ultimately have to rely on high tech gadgets to get the job done everytime.

He's sort of like a James Bond wannabe with a cos play disorder.

At least Superman can justify his duds by claiming to be a 'special' alien.

milo bloom

I'm not sure what to think, the biggest hurdle will be the casting of Batman, but otherwise it could be lots of fun.

Haven't seen MOS yet, but I enjoyed Watchmen and the Nolan Bat trilogy, so I doubt it will be an outright disaster.

Paul_SD

I still love Watchmen.

But MoS underlined a lot of Synder's weaknesses that I was originally discounting. Watchmen may end up existing as an outlier for the rest of his career.

Deftones

There's no way it's going to be them going at each other. I mean, maybe initially, since Batman has always been concerned with the amount of power that Superman has. But you don't put two of the more iconic comic characters on screen to have them duke it out.

redrum

i don't see how they would write it so Bruce would even want to fight him after he just saved the entire planet

EddieMoney

They need to worry less about casting Batman and a bit more about a decent script and teaching Hack Snyder how to direct.

hanshotfirst1138

Watchmen has a strong enough story to stand by itself, and Tse stuck pretty closely to it. I don't think Snyder is much of a storyteller, that one just happened to have a strong narrative to being with.

Has there been any confirmation that he'll be directing this?

DieselsDen

WB have tried to reboot Superman now not once, but twice. Both times, the results have been middling, artistically and financially. They obviousy have abandoned the idea of Superman being financially viable by himself.

That is absolutely my thought, too. Bringing Batman onboard is almost the equivalent of introducing a newborn family member to a tired, long-running sitcom.

There are so many problems raised by MAN OF STEEL which should at least be partially addressed in the sequel that bringing on BATMAN will probably overshadow everything else.

Maxflier

Seems like a given since he is the one who announced the movie at comic-con.

Why So Blu?

Batman: So tell me Kal-El, why did you destroy Metropolis and kill Zod?

Kal-El: Because fuck you that's why.


I'll be there.

Shannon Nutt

He also destroyed half of Metropolis in the process. A smart screenplay would have Batman teaching Superman about how to fight crime without so much collateral damage. Then, given that this looks like another Goyer/Snyder teaming, I don't think the phrase 'smart screenplay' is going to come up.

It would be nice to see Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Batman, but I don't see that happening. But I think that would be the way to guarantee a huge box office - if they can tie the Man of Steel universe into the Nolan Batman one, that would be great.

Dragon Tattoo

No one wants to see "Robin Blake" as Batman.

RocShemp

I would have liked that, actually. Especially since he was more of a detective than the Nolanverse's Bruce Wayne.

bluetoast

Well his detecting was kind of contrived when he "deduced" that Bruce was Batman.

Dragon Tattoo

I wouldn't really count the contrived way he figured out Batman was Bruce to be detective work, but whatever. I'm pretty sure most people want "Bruce Wayne" to be the Batman that meets "Clark Kent" in the superhero movie most fans of each character have been waiting for their entire lives, and Warners has to know that.

Few people would be willing to care about "Robin Blake" or even a "Dick Grayson" bats meeting superman. It just devalues the entire thing even more.

Actually, if Warner/DC had any sense at all they'd be driving truckloads of cash up to Patrick Bateman's house until he agreed to do this movie. They run a real chance of no one giving a shit no matter who they cast as Batman.

Solid Snake

I actually would have liked Blake as Bats. That would have been an interesting thing to see. But for the sake of JLA. We need Wayne. If they weren't going for a JLA. I'd totally dig seeing that character develop.

RocShemp

I'm thinking about when he was piecing together what Bane was up to. He was doing actual detective work. The closest Bruce ever did was that silly CSI scene with the bullet in TDK.

Why So Blu?

And Superman wouldn't have to deduce who Batman is, because he could see right through the cowl just like he did in the World's Finest. I think Batman even responded with "no peeking" before flinging him.

The same with Batman, he would know who Superman's alter ego was in a heartbeat, because he's the "world's greatest dtective."

robin2099

See I don't think that's what's going on. This seems more like WB saying "Ok, let's see how a movie teaming Batman and Superman does before we spend $300 million on a Justice League movie which we have no experience doing." We know WB wants a Justice League movie, but we also know that they don't want to spend the money if they don't think it will be viable. If this is anything it's WB dipping their toe in the water before jumping into the pool.