RocShemp

Michael Fassbender is 5' 11".

Luke Evans is 6'.

Both fall short of that 6'5" ideal you demanded.

ddrknghtrtns

Actually preferred Wally and was okay with Kyle.

Mike86

I still find Jason's death different as there was a choice given to fans whereas Hal and Barry were killed at the writers discretion. Maybe an overwhelming amount of fans didn't hate Jason but still the fact they came up with that concept makes me believe they had some negative feedback on him.

taffer

Me too, but I was just saying that people didn't hate Hal and Barry.

I think a big part of it is just what era you grew up reading as well. Most people are reluctant to change. If you grew up in the post-COIE era, then Kyle and Wally were your favorites most likely. If you grew up in the pre-COIE era, then you would have preferred Hal and Barry. And now people growing up in the New 52 era will again prefer Hal and Barry.

taffer

Well yeah there was some negative feedback, but not so much as to say that everyone hated Jason. Its like I said before, the hate was mostly from the older readers who preferred pre-COIE DC and wanted that Jason back.

Most people just can't handle change. Its like what is currently going on today with the New 52 era. The older readers say the New 52 sucks, and they want the old DC back.

I'm sure that DC had plenty of negative feedback regarding replacing Barry with Wally and Hal with Kyle from these pre-COIE fans as well. Wally and Kyle weren't overnight successes. It took time for them to grow on people. Post-COIE Jason simply wasn't around long enough to have time to grow. Actually the two-part storyarc called "The Diplomat's Son" which was right before "A Death in the Family" was a very good story and showed that Jason had a lot of potential. It was a bit too little too late though, since DC decided to do "A Death in the Family" right after.

TheMovieman

Michael Keaton - 5'10"
Val Kilmer - 6'0"
George Clooney - 6'0"
Christian Bale - 6'0"

Not many actors out there, who look right, that are over 6' tall...

Artman

I would've much preferred another solo Supes and Batman (reboot) first. This strikes me as pretty risky. If it's a MoS sequel with a Batman cameo...that's not being really truthful with the whole project... and it'll tick people off. And something as important as introducing a new Batman (which will have his own solo and JL films for the next 10+yrs) seems like it shouldn't be done this way either.

I like the dynamic of having an older/younger team-up. Two young 30 somethings isn't as interesting to me - but that's probably what they're doing. I'd love to see a 40+ actor for Batman... but I doubt it'll happen.

Paul_SD

I agree. I was serious when I suggested Cranston.
It will never happen, but the character in these movies relies so much on technological support (especially in a scenario where he goes one on one with Superman), that age is pretty much irrelevant in terms of suspension of disbelief.
And the contrast in ages would and to the dimensions of conflict between the two characters.

bluetoast

Clooney is more like 5'10''

TheMovieman

Yeah, I was mistaken, although according to IMDb, he's 5'11½", but who knows.

hanshotfirst1138

They'll be lucky if it's half as good, the DCAU has aged remarkably well at its best, and "World's Finest" is among its very best episodes. And look at that animation! Look at it! The multiple light sources! God, TMS are good.

Also, Christian Bale, Val Kilmer, Michael Keaton, and George Clooney played Batman. Kevin Conroy is Batman. Shame he's too old now. He's the definitive characterization of the Dark Knight for me, no one else comes close.

The film franchise has made them about $3 billion worldwide. The biggest comic in the world sells 160,000 copes. Marvel want to move the audience who love RDJ into their other properties, and they'll do anything to get them there. Comics aren't their core business, it's making merchandisable properties. They don't care what the 160,000 people in the direct market think about the cartoon, as long as kids watch the cartoon, and their parents buy them toys. The story, as ever, comes last.

RocShemp

Oh, I know. There was supposed to be a "you" in my post (which I have just edited accordingly) since it was in response to Why So Blu? insisting that some choices I mentioned were not right for Batman because the actors were not 6'5". I was merely pointing out that neither were his candidates.

chess

Agreed.

I thought they handled a lot of stuff in really clever ways in that episode/movie. I really appreciated the way they addressed not just Batman and Superman and their conflicting philosophies but also the relationship of Bruce and Clark...and Bruce and Lex. It's amazing that they can cover so much ground in 40 minutes, and it never feels rushed. That scene I posted above with them discovering each other's identities was the real highlight for me...amazing what they can do with four minutes of screen time.

Solid Snake

Was it 40 mins? Damn. It was 2 or 3 episodes, I think. 2 is what I'm thinking though. Wasn't this arc under Supes' TAS? Or was it separate thing for the both? I know the Batman set doesn't have it. Does Superman's sets carry them?

Iron_Giant

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0169590/
-Runtime = 64 min (Proves if you have a good story, you do not need filler)



Awesome movie, mature but not PG13.

Solid Snake

Yep. I knew it was part of Supes' series. Good times. I really loved the intro they made for that hour of Batman and Superman episodes.

chess

For some reason I was thinking it was 2 episodes (they run about 20 minutes), but yeah, I guess it was 3. My mistake.

I have both the standalone "movie" DVD and the episodes on the Superman TAS set. Really cleverly done and highly recommended. They'd probably have to substitute somebody in for the Joker or make it just Lex, but otherwise, if they did a scene for scene live action remake, I'd be damn near giddy.

Edit to add Amazon link. You can get a used copy basically for the price of $4 shipping or new for $7 with free super saver shipping. Don't let the terrible cover fool you, it's a really nice piece of work. The episodes are also on Amazon Instant for $2 each.

http://www.amazon.com/Batman-Superma...atman+superman

Giantrobo

Brack

I think this is a terrible idea.

The next time Batman should be introduced is in a Justice League movie, or the movie before its release. This character doesnt need another reboot story, and The Dark Knight trilogy is too fresh and well liked.

I'd prefer a Wonder Woman movie. I'm sick of the sausage fest. And they need one if WB is serious about a Justice League movie.

I think this is a knee jerk reaction by WB in order to compete with the Avengers sequel, and it could backfire horribly.

Rob V

nice... you teach kids too.

Michael Corvin

That would be badass in a post credit sequence.

RocShemp

Especially if they actually have Batman kick Superman's ass (using industrial strength Kryptonite) in this movie. It would really establish WW as a powerhouse that's not to be reckoned with.

ddrknghtrtns

I really hope they don't have Batman kick Superman's ass in his own sequel. Might as well let Batman literally take a piss on him after the beat down.

Why So Blu?

Well, considering they didn't introduce Kryptonite in MOS, that'd be a pretty big leap for Batman to discover the element and then find out it's the only thing that can harm Superman and then weaponize it. How long will the movie be?

RocShemp

He's fucking Batman. He'd figure that shit out faster than Luthor guessed it in the Donner flick.