Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)
10-23-19, 03:18 PM
#1951
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)
Discussing with some complaints doesn’t mean bitching. Relax dex, you can go easy on the lock button for now. 
10-23-19, 03:27 PM
#1953
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)
Be careful on Twitter. I saw some potentially high spoiler pictures, if real.
10-23-19, 04:18 PM
#1955
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)
10-23-19, 04:47 PM
#1956
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)
After ruining Star Wars for me, definItely have to turn her down hard!
10-23-19, 06:37 PM
#1958
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10-23-19, 06:40 PM
#1959
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)
Not to rehash this yet again, but a lot of his ideas for the prequels were awful. He took the Jedi, the coolest things around, and turned them into celibate space priests who didn't have the guts to free slaves on Tatooine (they left Shmi Skywalker and the others behind to rot) and had the Emperor hiding under their noses for decades.
I can accept that the Jedi Knight codes or laws wouldn't allow Qui-Gon to free Shmi from slavery, but I would think that it would be simple for Padme to have bought Shmi's freedom from Watto after she got back to Naboo. Just send Captain Panaka back to Tatooine with some space cash, have him buy out her contract from the little Antisemitic stereotype alien, and problem solved. Padme met Shmi and stayed in her home while they were stuck on Tatooine, and she seems like a decent, compassionate person, so paying off Watto and getting her off of Tatooine seems like the least she could have done. Instead, leaving her behind just makes everyone involved look like an asshole.
10-23-19, 06:48 PM
#1961
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10-23-19, 06:51 PM
#1962
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)
This feels like Revisionist History. Nobody here was all that upset about TFA when it came out, except that it felt a little note-for-note remake of ANH. In fact in the Sci Fi Sheep game, TFA was the run away winner of Best Sci Fi Movie of the past 25 years Now the new trilogy is a huge disappointment with the third movie not even been seen or reviewed? I don't buy it
At this point, I don't think there's any way that Abrams or Disney are either willing or able to pull the whole thing out the hole the sequel trilogy has been put into. If they were to go back and retcon stuff from TFA and TLJ, they're basically admitting that the films sucked, and the Mouse is too proud to do that.
10-23-19, 06:58 PM
#1963
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)
Originally Posted by Josh-da-man;13628940[b
]I initially liked TFA, but TLJ was so wrong-headed that it made me retroactively hate TFA. There was a lot of problematic stuff I overlooked in TFA (the FO being the Empire with the serial numbers filed off, the New Republic coming off like a total failure, the legacy characters being portrayed as ineffective losers, Rey being an InstaJedi) hoping that the second film in the trilogy would do something to solve these problems. Instead it just doubled down on them.
At this point, I don't think there's any way that Abrams or Disney are either willing or able to pull the whole thing out the hole the sequel trilogy has been put into. If they were to go back and retcon stuff from TFA and TLJ, they're basically admitting that the films sucked, and the Mouse is too proud to do that.
At this point, I don't think there's any way that Abrams or Disney are either willing or able to pull the whole thing out the hole the sequel trilogy has been put into. If they were to go back and retcon stuff from TFA and TLJ, they're basically admitting that the films sucked, and the Mouse is too proud to do that.
10-23-19, 07:00 PM
#1964
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)
10-23-19, 07:04 PM
#1965
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)
This feels like Revisionist History. Nobody here was all that upset about TFA when it came out, except that it felt a little note-for-note remake of ANH. In fact in the Sci Fi Sheep game, TFA was the run away winner of Best Sci Fi Movie of the past 25 years Now the new trilogy is a huge disappointment with the third movie not even been seen or reviewed? I don't buy it
I was intrigued by Rey (not who her parents were), but how she was able to pickup Force powers so easily? As of 2 movies, that still hasn’t been explained. Finn was different as he was a Former Stormtrooper so I thought they would expand on that plot point. It’s all but forgotten now other than Finn knows the ins and outs of the First Order. Kylo Ren is probably the best character of this new Trilogy as his story is the only thing that really interests me in Episode 9.
So they could have went a lot of ways with the characters in this Trilogy as the retread macro stuff doesn’t bother me. But if the ending of Episode 9 has Ben Solo redeem himself by saving Rey and killing the Emperor then they blew an opportunity with all these new characters.
10-23-19, 07:09 PM
#1966
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)
I was fine with TFA retread because I think it was done on purpose to "right the ship" for those who felt the PT was too sterile and never really felt like Star Wars. TFA "looked" and "felt" like Star Wars again. It was gritty, grimy, with practical effects. It was a comforting warm hug to the fans to bring them back into the fold. It worked, until TLJ took a massive corn kernel filled diarrhea shit on everything.
10-23-19, 07:46 PM
#1967
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)
I was fine with TFA retread because I think it was done on purpose to "right the ship" for those who felt the PT was too sterile and never really felt like Star Wars. TFA "looked" and "felt" like Star Wars again. It was gritty, grimy, with practical effects. It was a comforting warm hug to the fans to bring them back into the fold. It worked, until TLJ took a massive corn kernel filled diarrhea shit on everything.
Then The Last Jedi came along and shit on expectations put in place while at the same time taking a colossal shit on the legacy characters. So in effect that film pretty much ruined The Force Awakens for me, and now this new one try as it might to be better has too much on its plate to do a full course correction while also wrapping up the saga. That’s why I don’t have high hopes for The Rise of Skywalker. Best case scenario is it’ll be decent but probably not even close to the conclusion I hoped for. That’s a me problem I realize and if others like it that’s fine.
If the sequels are your thing then so be it, but they rightfully don’t work for a lot of us for pretty obvious reasons in spite of what a handful of posters will want to twist words to fit how they feel and act as though anyone who shares a differing opinion are wrong.
10-24-19, 06:42 AM
#1968
Senior Member
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)
Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
I initially liked TFA, but TLJ was so wrong-headed that it made me retroactively hate TFA. There was a lot of problematic stuff I overlooked in TFA (the FO being the Empire with the serial numbers filed off, the New Republic coming off like a total failure, the legacy characters being portrayed as ineffective losers, Rey being an InstaJedi) hoping that the second film in the trilogy would do something to solve these problems. Instead it just doubled down on them.
At this point, I don't think there's any way that Abrams or Disney are either willing or able to pull the whole thing out the hole the sequel trilogy has been put into. If they were to go back and retcon stuff from TFA and TLJ, they're basically admitting that the films sucked, and the Mouse is too proud to do that.
At this point, I don't think there's any way that Abrams or Disney are either willing or able to pull the whole thing out the hole the sequel trilogy has been put into. If they were to go back and retcon stuff from TFA and TLJ, they're basically admitting that the films sucked, and the Mouse is too proud to do that.
At this point I find myself likely to skip IX unless a friend is interested and invites me to go. The trailer didn't do anything for me.
10-24-19, 08:16 AM
#1969
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)
Ugh. Raise your hand if you're tired of the argument:
TFA - No, don't be just like the old movies!
TLJ - No, don't try to do something new!
TROS - No, don't not be Empire Strikes Back!
TFA - No, don't be just like the old movies!
TLJ - No, don't try to do something new!
TROS - No, don't not be Empire Strikes Back!
10-24-19, 08:28 AM
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)
while i am tired of the argument, this is a forum to discuss right? i mean what do you expect. Just saying.
and as for the spoilers from twitter, send me to them
and as for the spoilers from twitter, send me to them
10-24-19, 09:31 AM
#1971
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)
I expect everyone to agree with me and not be as successful as me and be very happy that I'm the best. What? Is that too much to ask from the internet?
I wouldn't!!!!!!!! I would tell her to bring it on!
