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Old 10-27-19, 09:23 PM
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)

Yeah..….no.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)

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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)

Originally Posted by Mike86
We should just create The Bitching About Star Wars Thread.
I've suggested a general Star Wars thread before and they can leave the current movie discussion thread to talking about the CURRENT movie.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)

I've only played it briefly on an emulator, but there's something I just love about the vector graphics of that original game.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)

I hope it's Endor.

The whole notion of any given planet being all one environment is pretty weird, anyway.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)

I have suspected that the single-environment planets featured in Star Wars are a throwback to golden age science fiction.

I can sort of see a lot of the Star Wars planets corresponding to early 20th century ideas of what the planets of our own solar system were like.

Tatooine, the desert world = Mercury
Dagobah , the swamp world = Venus
Bespin, the gas giant = Jupiter
Hoth, the ice planet = Pluto

At an rate, I do find it questionable whether or not a lot of these worlds like Tatooine and Hoth, or even Endor's moon, could support biospheres. I'm not sure you could have native flora and fauna on these worlds without some kind of ocean. Hoth and Tatooine almost feel like planets that have suffered some kind of environmental collapse and in the middle of extinction events.

When dealing with things like Star Wars (or even Star Trek, which tries to be marginally more scientifically correct), you sort of have not look too closely at these things. You just sort of have to accept that, somehow, there is life on Tatooine and Hoth. But what really drives me up the wall is stuff like basic physics, like the speed of light, how gravity works, etc.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)

I'm guessing originally they may have had the idea of making that "water" moon actually Endor - with the new environment the result of climate change as the result of the Death Star exploding in orbit like that...but then we'd have to listen to (a) "oh look, Disney has to make a social comment about climate change in a Star Wars movie; and (b) What? All the Ewoks DROWN?!

Some scientist actually addressed this a few years back:

https://www.space.com/32381-ewok-ext...eath-star.html
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)

Originally Posted by story
I hope it's Endor.

The whole notion of any given planet being all one environment is pretty weird, anyway.
Remember, the shield generator in Return of the Jedi was located on the forest moon of Endor, not on the planet of Endor.
Perhaps, it's not so far-fetched for a moon to have low bio-diversity.
Just don't get your hopes up to see the Ewoks.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)

Originally Posted by TomOpus
I've suggested a general Star Wars thread before and they can leave the current movie discussion thread to talking about the CURRENT movie.
So create one.

Ironically, there already seems to be a thread about whiny characters: https://forum.dvdtalk.com/movie-talk...-so-whiny.html
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)

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Remember, the shield generator in Return of the Jedi was located on the forest moon of Endor, not on the planet of Endor.
Perhaps, it's not so far-fetched for a moon to have low bio-diversity.
Just don't get your hopes up to see the Ewoks.
Yes, I know it's the forest moon of Endor. It's also weird to have a full-on planetoid or moon or planet or whatever all be one kind of thing. Though if we take Caravan of Courage and Battle of Endor as canon, there are mountains, there is desert, etc. So yeah, lakes and oceans works for me.

Also, I don't have hopes up to see Ewoks but I did offer this speculation before The Force Awakens came out based on the trailer. All I had was the Darth Vader helmet, clearly from Endor, a forest getting shredded by lasers, and a bit of creativity:

Originally Posted by story
I have one tiny little theory about TFA I want to toss out there, one that I haven't seen anywhere yet (I haven't read reviews) and I want to get it out there before the movie comes out. There is a shot in the trailer that I think leads to a particular event:
The shot of Kylo Ren interrogating Poe Dameron that ends with the red streak / fire wiping out a forest - what if it's the forest moon of Endor? What if Kylo Ren goes and gets Vader's armor and does not want the planet where he was disgraced to exist anymore, so he orders the Starkiller base to blow it up? The villain takes out all of those Ewoks people seem to hate so much, all without mercy.
Of course, if that doesn't happen, now a bunch of people probably will wish that it had...
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Has anyone speculated on what's up with the big dagger Rey has in her hand in the clip with Kylo in the white room?
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)

^^ Some Sith relic... or, you know, a macguffin to keep the story moving forward.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)

I still want to know how they are going to bring back The Emperor without ruining ROTJ? They either bring him back from the dead? He survived the DS2 blast? Or he is caught between worlds trying to come back possessing someone’s soul? I don’t know, every option I come up with seems lame.

Any other ideas?
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)

Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
I have suspected that the single-environment planets featured in Star Wars are a throwback to golden age science fiction.

I can sort of see a lot of the Star Wars planets corresponding to early 20th century ideas of what the planets of our own solar system were like.

Tatooine, the desert world = Mercury
Dagobah , the swamp world = Venus
Bespin, the gas giant = Jupiter
Hoth, the ice planet = Pluto
Once I found out Lucas did that intentionally I thought that was a cool idea. It makes Star Wars a little more unique and having it as a homage to golden age SF is just a nice little easter egg. The problem is that it becomes too conspicuous once you start using a giant fauna planet and the lava one.


Originally Posted by clappj
Has anyone speculated on what's up with the big dagger Rey has in her hand in the clip with Kylo in the white room?
Originally Posted by Rob V
^^ Some Sith relic... or, you know, a macguffin to keep the story moving forward.
Wait...was that
Spoiler:
just speculation or from a leak from the script?

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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)

I like how they sort of brought back the Emperor in that Star Wars Battlefront 2 game.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)

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I like how they sort of brought back the Emperor in that Star Wars Battlefront 2 game.
Can you put it in spoiler tags? I’m interested in reading it, but just in case other don’t want to know.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)

Originally Posted by coli
I still want to know how they are going to bring back The Emperor without ruining ROTJ? They either bring him back from the dead? He survived the DS2 blast? Or he is caught between worlds trying to come back possessing someone’s soul? I don’t know, every option I come up with seems lame.

Any other ideas?
Flashback/some kind of Force ghost. I don't think the Emperor will appear in the flesh.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)

I assume we will see a lot of characters from the past appear in some form or another (i.e. Force Ghosts or variations thereof) since they have mentioned that Abrams sees this film as wrapping up the entire 9 episode saga.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)

Originally Posted by TGM
I like how they sort of brought back the Emperor in that Star Wars Battlefront 2 game.
yep, they focused on this and made sure we knew it was now "cannon"
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)

Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
I have suspected that the single-environment planets featured in Star Wars are a throwback to golden age science fiction.

I can sort of see a lot of the Star Wars planets corresponding to early 20th century ideas of what the planets of our own solar system were like.

Tatooine, the desert world = Mercury
Dagobah , the swamp world = Venus
Bespin, the gas giant = Jupiter
Hoth, the ice planet = Pluto
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the prequel trilogy= Uranus
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)

Didn't one of the early official posters pretty much confirm the emperor is back?
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)

Originally Posted by Dr. DVD
Didn't one of the early official posters pretty much confirm the emperor is back?
Ian McDiarmid is listed on the movie poster. It's not a secret that the Emperor is back. The only "spoiler" is in what form does he return?
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)

The Emperor could come back fully alive but much older and decrepit than before. Or he could be a younger clone version of himself. He could come as a large an moving Torg. He may even choose a new form, that of a giant Slor! Or he could come back as a Force ghost, we just don't know yet.
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Many Shuvs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Slor that day, I can tell you!
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)

Regarding the Emperor's return... there's a rumor that
Spoiler:
Matt (Doctor Who) Smith is going to be playing either a rejuvenated Palpatine or a clone Palpatine, but it is not confirmed that he's even in the cast.


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