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Old 12-17-19, 08:57 AM
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)

If those are the people that hate it then I’m excited.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)

Originally Posted by milo bloom
Impressions from the premier are generally positive. The negatives seem to be from the die hard TLJ lovers but overall most are saying it’s the ultimate Star Wars movie if not quite the best one.

I'm preparing myself for a good movie, but not the best. It can only go up from there.
Seriously??? From most of what I am reading its a decidedly moved response, and that's me being kind. Sounds like it's too much fan service and trying to right the wrongs made by TLJ. An impossible task at this point. I read the storyline with spoilers a few weeks ago on Reddit (not confirmed if real or not, but highly detailed and sounded like the shitfest I was expecting), now in the past i would NEVER have gone near spoilers to a new Star Wars movie, but after Force Awakens i stopped giving a shit. That was an average movie at best and TLJ was terrible in every respect.

The only reason I am contemplating seeing this on the big screen is because I have seen them all on the big screen. This new trilogy was just a big waste of time.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)

Originally Posted by milo bloom
but overall most are saying it’s the ultimate Star Wars movie
Well, that's technically true..
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)

Mendelson hated it.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)

Originally Posted by milo bloom
The negatives seem to be from the die hard TLJ lovers
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That's my impression as well - and I couldn't be happier!
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)

I expect it to be thoroughly mediocre, only because all of JJ's movies have only ever been thoroughly mediocre - he can't seem to rise above that threshold - but on the plus side, he doesn't seem to go below it either, which keeps him from making thoroughly terrible movies.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)

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I expect it to be thoroughly mediocre, only because all of JJ's movies have only ever been thoroughly mediocre - he can't seem to rise above that threshold - but on the plus side, he doesn't seem to go below it either, which keeps him from making thoroughly terrible movies.
So, this generation's Ron Howard?
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)

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So, this generation's Ron Howard?

I think Howard has a better track record than JJ, IMO. Howard is wildly uneven, though.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)

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So, this generation's Ron Howard?
Ron Howard is a much better director than JJ Abrams, as his resume isn't littered with reboots from successful franchises. You can say that Ron Howard plays it safe with his movies, but he has some classics like Apollo 13, A Beautiful Mind and Cocoon that were Oscar Nominated. Even movies like Splash, Gung Ho, and Night Shift are solid comedies. JJ Abrams resume is mostly filled with Star Wars, Mission Impossible and Star Trek, all franchises that he rebooted.
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Old 12-17-19, 05:03 PM
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)

if it shits all over TLJ I will fucking love it.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)

I've noticed in the last few years that Star Wars fans have become so divided and sometimes borderline toxic.

If you love these new movies, you're a shill, fanboy, easy to please, you have no credibility.

If you hate it, you're some uptight asshole with an agenda or hate everything from Disney. They've ruined your childhood.

Or oh no, this is not the Star Wars movie that was scripted in my head, so it sucks.

I don't understand why the "fans" take these movies so personally. I would never attack or insult someone for liking or not liking these movies. Like when someone hates it, it's almost like some people get personally offended like they spit on your movie. And then when someone loves it, they also get attacked for being a fanboy shill who loves everything and has zero critical eye for these movies. Simply can't please everyone.

Anyways, I'm looking forward to Thursday.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)

^That's not just Star Wars, though. You see the same kinds of attitudes among the fandom of many franchises. Star Wars is just bigger/more widespread than most, so it does seem to stand out.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)

Originally Posted by DJariya
I've noticed in the last few years that Star Wars fans have become so divided and sometimes borderline toxic.

If you love these new movies, you're a shill, fanboy, easy to please, you have no credibility.

If you hate it, you're some uptight asshole with an agenda or hate everything from Disney. They've ruined your childhood.

Or oh no, this is not the Star Wars movie that was scripted in my head, so it sucks.

I don't understand why the "fans" take these movies so personally. I would never attack or insult someone for liking or not liking these movies. Like when someone hates it, it's almost like some people get personally offended like they spit on your movie. And then when someone loves it, they also get attacked for being a fanboy shill who loves everything and has zero critical eye for these movies. Simply can't please everyone.

Anyways, I'm looking forward to Thursday.
This is nothing new, unfortunately. I remember how horrible the fans were discussing the star wars re-releases back in '97 on newsgroups and then later the prequels. I mean, I think after the first thousand pages of "Luca$ raped my childhood", you've got the idea. I'm a bit out of touch on what the new mantra or meme is with Lucas out of the picture and Disney doing the felonious assault against Star Wars fandom....
Old 12-17-19, 11:26 PM
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)

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That's kinda great.
Old 12-18-19, 06:30 AM
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)

I've heard two things about the movie from someone who has seen it (take this for what it's worth, if anything):

1) It basically all-but-ignores The Last Jedi
2) If you're a JJ Abrams fan, you'll love it.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)

^ Someone I know who saw it basically said it ignores a lot of things from all of the previous films; ignores some of the Lucas-era world-building, character stuff etc.

Shit, this might be an actual dud.
Quality-wise, not box office. It's going to rake in all the money regardless of what people think.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)

I have not read spoilers but I really hope this movie doesn't ignore what was established in previous movies. I actually am an Abrams fan and certainly have not agreed with the direction all of these films have taken but it would annoy me if things from previous movies were just changed or ignored, that is lazy and bad story telling.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)

It sounds like that’s exactly what they did from the reviews I’ve read.


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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)

As long as they don’t go back to casino world it can’t be all bad.
Hmm maybe be retcons where the blue milk comes from.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)

Uh oh, reviews are trickling in and, so far, it looks to be the worst reviewed SW film yet - neck & neck with Phantom Menace. With most agreeing it is one of the worst dialog/script the films have ever had.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)

Originally Posted by DJariya
I don't understand why the "fans" take these movies so personally. I would never attack or insult someone for liking or not liking these movies. Like when someone hates it, it's almost like some people get personally offended like they spit on your movie. And then when someone loves it, they also get attacked for being a fanboy shill who loves everything and has zero critical eye for these movies. Simply can't please everyone.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)

Originally Posted by slop101
Uh oh, reviews are trickling in and, so far, it looks to be the worst reviewed SW film yet - neck & neck with Phantom Menace. With most agreeing it is one of the worst dialog/script the films have ever had.
If it has worse dialogue than the prequels, than they have really accomplished something. I can't imagine how such a thing would even be possible. "I hate sand!" "Anakin, you're breaking my heart!" "Noooooo!!!!!" "Meesa in deep doo-doo!"
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)

Yeah I can't imagine dialog worse than the prequels.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)

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Yeah I can't imagine dialog worse than the prequels.



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