FatTony

Didn't they show Ben actually go down into the caves under his Dharma house, pull out a plug, and then tell Smokey he'd be outside?

Edit: I just realized they showed that when he was about to be "judged," but I'd think it's fair to assume he had to do the same thing to let Smokey into the barracks to take out Keamy and his men.

s}{ammer

Sawyer is with the same person he has always been with, himself. I think they have hammered home this subject many times.

Kate got shot, Jack is the only doctor so he had to get her on the sub and get on with her to make sure she didn't die from being shot.

Jack is the candidate and he is figuring out the rules of the game between jacob and MIB. MIB wants them all dead, but he can't kill them himself, so they have to do it. If Sawyer had let the bomb count down, it would have done nothing, Jack figured this out. However, Sawyer still believes he had to disarm the bomb since it is a timebomb counting down. He hasn't found the faith yet that Jack has. So when he tried to disarm the bomb, Sawyer became the one who killed everyone with the bomb.

I think Flocke wants to still fly the plane off the island once all the candidates died in the sub.


Miles and Ben went with Richard. I am sure they will return.


Yep, I am loving the flocke character and Locke was always my very favorite character on Lost.

Palaver

The question I was answering was about who originally rigged the plane, not who put the C4 in Jack's backpack.

jiggawhat

No love for Lapidus.

Deftones

Ok, the biggest issue I had with this episode (haven't read a single post in this one yet) is the Sun/Jin deaths. I mean, come on! Ok, so they have a daughter and Sun trying to get Jin back was so they could be a family. So, instead of Jin trying to escape so he could take care of his daughter, they just die together? Sure, I get they love each other deeply, but come the freak on. Anyone else in that situation would've left. Yeah, it would've sucked to leave your spouse to die, but guess what, you have other obligations, such as you kid. Once I saw they died together, it really sucked the meaning out of the entire situation and the episode. I literally went from enjoying the episode to completely hating it, all within the span of about 30 seconds.

s}{ammer

I liked Lapidus. He made some funny faces when he was confused or caught off guard. Anyway, I think the show will end with Flocke being stuck on the island still and Jacob, or the person who replaces him, calling the Black Rock to the island to restart the game.

I have a feeling the show will end up basically as they keep repeating the game until something changes and Flocke is able to get out, but we won't ever see it since Jack will stay on the island.

I wouldn't be surprised if they set it up so that a year or two from now there could be a Lost movie franchise in the works. I hope so at least.

s}{ammer

Come on now, this is a bit harsh. First of all, I think it should be obvious to all the folks left alive that there isn't much chance for any of them to get off the island. Poor Jin, he spent many years without the love of his life and when they finally get reunited she ends up being put in a no chance to survive situation. She was off the island and came back for him, and he knows he will probably never get off the island. He did the right thing by standing by the woman who gave everything up for him. Besides, his daughter is with what Sun's mom? He would never be able to get her away from the grandma especially since grandpa is a mob boss who will have him killed. Anyway, I think he did the right thing.

Raul3

OK, first, I loved the episode.

Now, I wasn't moved by Jin and Sun's death. My wife almost cried though. And yeah, I hated that they were talking in English.

I'm kinda puzzled about myself, everyone saying this is the best episode in the story of tv, OK not everyone, and I enjoyed the episode, but I can't even say was the best of the season. I'm fearing I won't enjoy the rest of the episodes as well.

Deftones

You must not be a parent, based on these comments. No way most people act the same way in that situation. I act like a parent first, a husband second. You are making a ton of assumptions about the kid and the situation. Wouldn't living you entire life trying to get off an island to see your kid and dying a far more fitting way to live than to just give up and die with your wife?

Aphex Twin

Sopranos reference

majorjoe23

I think they're playing the Pitchfork Festival this year.

MoviePage

It's official: Finale Expanded by 30 minutes. 9 p.m. until 11:30 p.m. ET, May 23.

maxfisher

Given they're selling commercial slots for $1.8 million per minute, I wouldn't be surprised if the 2.5 hour decision had little to do with the show itself.

andy434343

After this episode, I have no idea how anyone could still think that the Man in Black is the bad guy.

My new video:

Schloob1

Sorry Deftones but I got to disagree with you here on this one. And YES I am a parent, just to put that disclaimer out there. You yourelf are making assumptions as well, unless of course you have been in a submarine that is about to sink(or burning building, place any other possible death scenario here) and you were unable to get your wife free. Personally I don't know for sure what I would do, but thankfully I have not had to make that choice. It can be too easy sometimes to automatically believe that in that moment you would do scenario A(simply up and leave, and let wife die), and then end up instead doing scenario B because who is ever truly thinking 100% clearly in a moment like that? This is why as parents we are supposed to make sure we have a person(s) picked out to be a legal guardian of our child(ren) in case of an unfortunate event we die.

Also, factually speaking(in this show) you can say that Sun actaully abandoned their child before Jin did last night. or would you disagree? She went by the word of a man she utterly despised in Ben that Jin was still alive and went with all of them on the flight. I don't know about you but that is taking a lot of faith that Jin was in fact still alive and that you believed you could somehow make it back to the island and HOPEFULLY find him and then get back off together and be back with their daughter and be 1 big happy family.

Finally, the writers obviously foreshadowed that this would happen of course when the 2 of them met back up on the beach. Jin said he would NEVER leave Sun again. And true to his word last night he did not.

DthRdrX

MiB rigged it, probably suggesting he killed the 316 people. Before he entered the plane he took the dead guy's watch that he would later use as the countdown timer on the bomb he would find in the plane.

How he figured out how to rig a bomb is another story though.

Palaver

That makes sense. Especially the part about him taking the watch before finding the bomb.

But I thought that the MiB couldn't directly cause the death of the candidates. If he set a bomb to go off when the plane started, wouldn't that conflict that rule?

Goldblum

Aphex Twin

Is Widmore dead?

Aphex Twin

I thought he meant he had to go kill Desmond.

I wonder if we will ever find out why everyone had to die.

wildcatlh

DthRdrX

No, they'd show that. Even Frank got a 3 second death scene! Him and Zoe probably ducked outta sight when they knew MiB was coming. IMO, MiB will go after Jacob's remaining candidates while what's left of Widmore's group will run into Ben's group.

The question is what exatly CAN MiB do to the candidates? They made a point of telling us Kate's name was crossed off, so maybe he'll try to get to Jack/Sawyer by killing her.

DthRdrX

Yea, we dont know for sure. The only thing we can prove via the watch is that the MiB knew the bomb was in there already.

IMO MiB knows it would have been easier for them to throw the bomb out of the plane than it would the sub. He just left it in the plane to keep it safe. Probably killed the 316 group prior to Widmore arriving in the sub, planted it, and went back to the main island for the rest of the candidates.

AJW

MIB's plan for the submarine bomb doesn't make sense to me. If we believe the bomb wouldn't have killed the candidates without Sawyer's actions, then what would have happened if Jack never discovered the bomb? What if Hurley found the first aid kit and Jack didn't need a t-shirt out of the knapsack?

SteelWill

Yeah, there is that little flaw in the slaw.