Solid Snake

I don't think there would be need to address. We kind of got the gist of what happened in the PT from what snippets of info we got from the OT.

mcnabb

I will be honest, if the ST is a critical success with the fans (we all know it will be a box office success), I wouldn't put it past Disney to remake the PT the same way Nolan remade Batman.

Part of us all who didn't like the PT would love to see if one of these directors could do it right this time. I hated the Clooney Batman movie, but I ended up loving the Nolan Batman movies (the last installment was OK), so why not remake the PT?

Disney could profit for 2 reasons: They could have a huge SW box office movie for 2015, 2017, 2019 with the ST, and then 2021, 2023, 2025 with the new PT. Then they would only have to wrangle for the Home Video rights to the OOT movies.

Obi-Wanma

The home video rights to everything but the original film (Episode IV) revert to Disney in 2020 anyway.

Solid Snake

That sounds like a horrible idea. To remake the PT. The difference between your use of the Batman franchise is that Nolan's films aren't connected to the previous ones. The PT, like it or not, is connected to the OT. Why would disney spend millions more on remaking films they already have and are using the franchise still? The PT sucked, get over it. Move on. We've got the ST coming. Let us focus on that.

Add in that the PT are already a generation's SW trilogy.

mcnabb

They remade the Spiderman movies not more then 10 years after the first trilogy, and the original Spiderman movies were good. They remake EVERYTHING in Hollywood, heck they even remade Footloose! Did we need another Footloose?

From a creative standpoint, I agree with you to let the PT go and move along. But from a financial point of view, why wouldn't they?

Solid Snake

Again.... Your use of Spider-Man contradicts what the PT is. The reboot of Spidey is not connected to Raimi's at all. The PT IS connected to the OT. They already have it. I get what you're saying but just cuz Hollywood is remake happy doesn't mean Disney would be stupid to do the Anakin films again. Could someone do it better now? Sure. But why waste time on that now? They own the franchise. They're moving forward w/ what they got. Going back to the PT seems like a waste of time and creativity for them right now.

dan30oly

I would argue that the PT isn't connected to the OT at all, and that the PT completely contradicts the OT and therefore a re-do is in order.

Lucas was clearly senile when the PT was made.

The only cross-over I would like to see from the PT is Jar Jar. Leave everything else out.

rocket1312

Oh make no mistake, they're illegal. That said, Lucasfilm is aware of their existence and consider them to be such a non-threat to their bottom line that they don't really care. They know what site they're originating from and could've shut them down years ago, but they haven't. Given how litigious Lucasfilm can be, I think that says something. Buy a copy of the official releases to go with them and you should be able to sleep at night.

The annotated screenplays are ok, but the Rinzler books are like all of the best parts of the annotated screenplays and so, so, so much more. Anyone who's a a fan of the original trilogy owes it to themselves to grab all three. Just make sure you have a nice, sturdy coffee table. They're pretty beastly.

TGM

what's going to kind of suck, is that if it becomes known who is NOT reporting for filming of Episode 8 it likely means they died in Episode 7. Harrison Ford I'm looking at yoooooooouuuuuu.

mcnabb

Wouldn't be funny if a Sith with a mechanical arm kills Leia and Han tells Luke, "A one armed man killed my wife, he had a mechanical arm, you find this man, you find this man!"

Abob Teff

Eh. The Force is not a quasi-religious phenomenon. Religions may arise around the Force, but the Force is not derived from the religions. I like this aspect as it gives a real (unexplored) motivational driver for the Jedi order and the Sith.

Midichlorians can be an antenna for the Force but they still have to be something ... virus, bacteria, genetic material ... What? If they can be measured in a person's blood, then they should be able to be transferred. So I should be able to perform a blood transfusion or kill my enemy and drink his blood and gain more power with the Force.

To me, this is where Star Wars fails. It has an amazing set-up as an intergalactic tale of religion and politics, but the execution on these levels falls apart after the initial movie. Lucas tried to dabble back into these topics with the PT, but he failed miserably. Hell, he failed so miserably that I was no longer convinced the Empire was evil by the end of the the last prequel movie. I would really love to see a successful version of those storylines.

I guess Sean said it more succinctly.

Only if this is followed by the Sith standing in front of Han, twirling his lightsaber(s) around menacingly. Han shakes his head, pulls out his blaster, shoots him, and walks away.

Timber

The Empire was evil because the Emperor was evil? All the Separatists wanted to do was tax trade routes so I'm not exactly sure how they were evil either. Don't even get me started to blowing up Alderran. They were harboring a terrorist state. We blew up Japan for far less.


The whole Force thing could have just been glossed over if Qui-gon simply said "He is strong in the Force. I have never felt stronger" It says nothing but no one was clamoring to know exactly what The Force was in he first place.

mcnabb

I believe Lucas threw in the Midiclorian angle because he sadly didn't trust the audience to understand how powerful Anakin was with the force. The midiclorians gave him a number to give Anakin, almost like talking about Wilt Chamberlain's amazing 100 point game to new generations.

Lucas should have showed us, but not tell us, as that is the most powerful story telling. Within the first 10 minutes of ROTJ, we all get how powerful Luke has become, then you goto the PT and Anakin says to Dooku in ROTS, "My powers have doubled since we last met."

Another example is the Cave Scene, as it is never really explained to the viewer other then a few thoughts from Yoda before Luke enters. I never really understood the Cave Scene as a kid, but as I got older I started to understand Luke's failure. It would have been lame if Yoda explained EXACTLY why Luke failed at the cave a few minutes later, instead he just says, "Remember your failure at the cave."

Its all about trusting the audience, and not dumbing everything down for them.

Mike86

Wow. A post by you that I actually agree with for the most part (except the Jar Jar shit). The Prequel Trilogy is terrible and it definitely contradicts a lot of the Original Trilogy, but that being said the chances of Disney actually taking it out of canon is slim to none. I agree about Lucas definitely not being of the most sound mind when he made the Prequel Trilogy though and made a lot of stupid decisions and was so much more concerned about changing the Original Trilogy to fit in with his overall vision so they fit in better with the Prequel Trilogy rather than the opposite which would have made more sense.

Josh-da-man

My assumption was that midichlorians show up with people who are Force-sensitive. They aren't necessarily something that can be transferred, and even if they could be transferred from one person to another, then they wouldn't give that person any Force sensitivity.

Put this way, Forcey people have midichlorians because they're Forcey; the midichlorians themselves don't make them Forcey.

Though, still, I agree that they are an unnecessary narrative device. All we need to know is that Qui-Gon could tell that he was strong with the Force, maybe that he had never felt anyone like that, not even Yoda. It's not something that needed a number on it.

AND EVEN THEN, he , either as Anakin Skywalker or Darth Vader, never really did anything to indicate that he was more powerful than any of the other Jedi or Sith we saw.

Guru Askew

I can't be bothered to post a Dumb & Dumber "so you're saying there's still a chance" GIF because it's a done deal. It's not on the table. They cleaned house on the continuity and the decision was made: the PT stays.

Everything now feeds into a new continuity that has PT stuff spread through it (like a cancer if you're so inclined) and even if they decided to do it 20 years from now they'd find themselves with another large pile of decanonized material.

To even consider making this work you would need the ST to avoid any and all references to the PT, leaving the OT and the ST as the true canon. Everything else is scrapped, including the PT and all the EU stuff that depends upon it.

DthRdrX

Well we knew he was something special when we found out he was a virgin birth ...

stvn1974

The old guy played by Liam Neeson says that Midi-chlorians were intelligent microscopic life forms that lived symbiotically inside the cells of all living things. Not just force sensitive people.

Timber

symbiosis was the theme of TPM and you are correct on that.

Timber

Another thing that did not need explanation. His father was a slave and is dead. End of story.

Josh-da-man

From what I understand, VII, VIII, and IX -- and any other 'canon' material that is released -- will have minimal references to events of the Prequels.

I agree that it is very unlikely that the Prequels will be de-canonized, but we also had people swearing up and down that the Sequel Trilogy would never happen because the entire saga was the life and death of Anakin Skywalker.

That said, it wouldn't surprise me at all if Disney decided to 'remake'/'reboot'/'reimagine' the Star Wars saga in the not-too near future. After they've done the Sequel Trilogy, and milked the 'saga' for all it's worth, it would make some degree of business sense for them to start the whole thing over, say, around 2025 or 2030.

They will probably need to do this, eventually, to hook another generation on Star Wars. The old saga will be dated the further we go into the future -- the practical effects in the OT, the rubbery CGI in the PT, the 70s hair in the OT, yadda, yadda, yadda. A reboot will allow them to introduce Star Wars to a new generation, give them a nine movie saga with a consistent plan (providing they go into it with one), give them a consistent tone, continuity of actors and special effects.

Put it this way... Disney has this property that's worth a lot of money and that they paid a lot for. They are going to want to exploit it. Already they're going to back to the nostalgia well and going back to Luke, Han, and Leia for the Sequel Trilogy. These characters are iconic. And they're tied to specific actors who are only getting older and won't be around forever. They can do something new, like KOTOR, but that's a risk and will use characters that the general public isn't familiar with.

So, say, in 2025, they do a reboot. That gives them nine blockbuster movies, a new generation of fans, and shitloads of new merchandise to sell.

2025 - Episode IV reimagined
2027 - Episode V reimagined
2029 - Episode VI reimagined
2031 - Episode I reimagined
2033 - Episode II reimagined
2035 - Episode III reimagined
2037 - Episode VII reimagined
2039 - Episode VIII reimagined
2041 - Episode IX reimagined

Sixteen years worth of blockbuster movies, with a consistent look, a consistent storyline, and a marketing plan. It's also how they're running the MCU. I'm going with 2025, but it will happen whenever the well runs dry.

nuWars.

Count on it.

fumanstan

I don't think they reboot unless the movies do poorly at the box office; otherwise I would guess that they just continue with more sequels in the existing universe.

Rebooting just the prequels seems way too far fetched.

stvn1974

Perfect world: Disney releases the UOT on BD and the new films don't mention anything that takes place in the prequels.

taffer

They have already shown they are willing to takes risks with MCU movies like GOTG and Ant-Man (and Black Panther and Captain Marvel).

I think KOTOR is probably less of a risk than those MCU movies. Many more people play video games than read comics. So it's very likely more people are familiar with Revan and Malak than they were with Rocket and Groot before the movie.

Shannon Nutt

Disney doesn't have to worry about re-booting. They're already planning prequels around popular characters - so that's how they're dealing with the re-boot idea..."yeah, we know Boba Fett got screwed up, but you've never seen THIS story about him."