kefrank

Maybe it's more accurate to say he cares about consistency differently than the internet does, because he made weird adjustments to the original trilogy to make it more consistent with the prequel trilogy. I think your second sentence pretty much sums it up though.

Josh-da-man

Obi-Wan's ghost saved Annakin's ghost.

Mike86

That is a fair point and I guess I don't really have a good answer as to why Anakin was able to turn into a Force ghost after his death. I mean his turn at the end of Return of the Jedi made it possible for him to be one with the Force I believe but not sure on how the ghost aspect works. The only thing that seems logical is what Josh-da-man mentioned in that his spirit was visited by Obi-Wan or another Jedi who had passed on and they told him but obviously that wasn't shown. It could also be that if you pass and are one with the Force when your death arrives that you're able to become a Force ghost but that explanation seems a bit too easy. I'm wondering if the spirit of a Jedi needs to take on the form of a Force ghost shortly after death or if they can become one after some time has passed.

Crocker Jarmen

Since the point of the shot is to symbolize Anakin's redemption, how about this; Anakin, Obi-Wan and Yoda weren't really there. We only see them from Luke's POV. Leia joins him, but her face betrays no sign that she sees the glowing spirits. The vision is only in Luke's mind. Probably there never was a ghost Obi-Wan the entire series, it was only Luke imagining his dead mentor. Probably there never was any Yoda either. I bet if we looked at Artoo's hard-drive, all we'd find recorded of his time on Dagobah would be footage of Luke talking to himself.

Mike86

The way I took it is that only Jedi are able to see the spirits of those who have passed on. That's why Luke is able to see them but not Leia. Not sure if I'm correct on that or not.

Solid Snake

That's right.

Mabuse

Your theory is both terrible and wrong.

P.S. Yoda was alive during Luke's time on Degobah in ROTJ.

GuessWho

Luke can see them because he's a death jinx.

Ben, Yoda, Anakin... all died while in the same room as Luke.

Timber

I may have been able to buy that but how would Luke have any idea what his dad looked like when he was in his 20's? And why in the world would he be picturing him in an outfit that he never wore?

Double_Oh_7

How would Luke know what his dad looks like at all? He saw his injured, scarred face only briefly. Your logic doesn't even work for the original shot.

Timber

Shit, you're right. Scene makes no sense in the original or the update.

stingermck

Maybe....just maybe Luke was able to see a photograph or video of his war hero father/Jedi killer once he learned the truth.

Come on, cant Luke get on Space Google and search Anakin Sykwalker and get a million hits?

Sean O'Hara

Actually the outfit would make sense if it were all in Luke's head -- he's imagining it based upon what Obi-Wan wore.

Now the fact that Hayden Christensen appears ... well, that doesn't make sense either way.

kgrogers1979

There wouldn't be adult pics/videos of Anakin though because he "died" during the Clone Wars/Order 66.

The only people who likely knew Anakin was Vader would have been Obi-Wan, Yoda, and Palpatine, and they probably wouldn't have told anyone. I seriously doubt the general public would have known.


Yoda was wearing his tattered Jedi robes on Dagobah too. It makes me wonder if he wore those same robes every day for 20 years with how tattered they were. He probably didn't have time to pack other clothes before he left the Jedi Temple on Coruscant.

Hayden appearing as the ghost actually does make sense if you believe it's all in Luke's head. Like I said above, the only pics/videos Luke could have seen would have been of a young Anakin before he "died" in the Clone Wars/Order 66. Although Luke did briefly see old Anakin too when he took off Vader's helmet, so who knows.

Timber

Weren't the Jedi archives wiped at the end or RoTS? Where are these pictures coming from? It's not like they were showing photos around the Skywalker farm seeing as how Luke had no idea his father was a Jedi. Unless Obi showed him pictures in the brief moment they were at his place before Luke went back to the burning farm and they left for Mos Eisley.

BrewCrew

Anakin seemed like a pretty popular Jedi, there were probably numerous pictures of him available so I don't know how the Empire could have removed those pictures from the whole galaxy. Once Luke found out who his Dad was he could just see what he looked like.

Mike86

The key difference in the original though is that Sebastian Shaw played Anakin under the Vader mask and as the Force ghost. Anakin as the Force ghost wasn't scarred and had hair, but you could still tell they were the same person (or at least I never thought the difference was that jarring).

kgrogers1979

I don't remember the Jedi archives being wiped. I just remember Kamino being wiped to hide the creation of the clone army. Although I guess with the destruction of the Jedi temple, the archives would have been destroyed too.

I wasn't talking about the archives though. I was talking more about Luke doing the Star Wars equivalent of a google search and finding the Star Wars equivalent of Anakin's Facebook page. Sure, Luke most likely wouldn't have had access to google while living on a remote farm on Tatooine, but there are about five years between ANH and ROTJ when he could have done some googling.

GuessWho

Stop applying earth logic. Jedi can see visions. The Force may have implanted the thoughts.

Also, midichlorians created Google Image Search via immaculate conception.

kgrogers1979

Luke does a google image search for his mother and finds a topless selfie. "MOM!?"

Shazam

Where can I see this selfie???!

Josh-da-man

hdnmickey

If that was true, how did the audience figure it out so quickly. Especially my dumb teen self. I thought it was immediately obvious what they were doing there and who that was.

Ranger

New rumor that VIII will have another

I know rumors are rumors but I'm getting more confused. I say they didn't reveal Rey and Finn's last names just to mislead us and both really are not related to anyone we have seen before.

JTH182