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Old 12-05-19, 09:50 AM
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)

Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
Exclusive: Rey's Backstory from Collin Trevorrow's Star Wars Episode IX script.

Sounds pretty underwhelming, actually. (Though it fits in well with the underwhelming sequel trilogy.)

Wouldn't surprise me at all if Abrams' final film resembles this to some degree.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)

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Yesterday i read a breakdown of each act of the movie and pretty sure its legit. Star Wars has gotten so low in this new trilogy that whereas once before i would actively avoid spoiler, now i have no problem reading a full breakdown to see if there is any justification in not having my time wasted.

It does read like there is Rey training at the beginning of the movie and a whole lot of retconning going on for the mistakes the last movie, and to some extents first movie made in this series. Also some call backs to OTT characters and events and even one big call back to a scene from Empire that made me think it will fall flat for me.

There is only a single reason that i may see this in cinemas and thats the simple fact that i have seen all the other 8 main series movies on the big screen. But thats literally it. This new trilogy has done a disservice to the original and its characters whilst trying to shoe horn characters who are empty voids and a story that has zero cohesiveness from start to end. This series should be given as a case example of producing a trilogy with no concept or idea of the story beginning middle or end and not planning anything out.
If you could PM me where you read that, I'd love to check it out. I agree with you regarding not really caring for the characters -- to me, it'll always be about the OT characters. For my 11 year old son - it's the same. He couldn't care less about Rey, Finn, Kylo, Poe, etc... he loves Luke and Vader.
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Originally Posted by james2025a
Yesterday i read a breakdown of each act of the movie and pretty sure its legit. Star Wars has gotten so low in this new trilogy that whereas once before i would actively avoid spoiler, now i have no problem reading a full breakdown to see if there is any justification in not having my time wasted.

It does read like there is Rey training at the beginning of the movie and a whole lot of retconning going on for the mistakes the last movie, and to some extents first movie made in this series. Also some call backs to OTT characters and events and even one big call back to a scene from Empire that made me think it will fall flat for me.

There is only a single reason that i may see this in cinemas and thats the simple fact that i have seen all the other 8 main series movies on the big screen. But thats literally it. This new trilogy has done a disservice to the original and its characters whilst trying to shoe horn characters who are empty voids and a story that has zero cohesiveness from start to end. This series should be given as a case example of producing a trilogy with no concept or idea of the story beginning middle or end and not planning anything out.
Kind of sums up my same feelings. I'm only interested in watching the movie as its the last movie for a lot of actors from the Original Trilogy and also the final Star Wars score from John Williams.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)

Originally Posted by james2025a
Yesterday i read a breakdown of each act of the movie and pretty sure its legit. Star Wars has gotten so low in this new trilogy that whereas once before i would actively avoid spoiler, now i have no problem reading a full breakdown to see if there is any justification in not having my time wasted.
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Sometimes spoilers don't paint a true picture, as the execution sometimes gives you that context you don't get on paper. For example, I remember reading the Episode 3 spoilers in 2005 as I pretty much knew the movie when I walked into the theater. I was very hyped from the spoilers I read but they couldn't paint the same picture of the Vader scene yelling, "NOOOOO!!!!" or Anakin turning to the darkside in 20 seconds, or how long/boring the Obiwan/Anakin Mustafar Lightsaber fight was. On the other hand, I remember reading a spoiler about TFA regarding Luke only being in the movie for the last 2 minutes and I was very disappointed and expecting the worst. That ending scene with Luke and Rey in TFA is still one of my favorites of the Saga (even after Rian Johnson ruined it in TLJ). So while I have been reading spoilers for 'The Rise of Skywalker', I still think it's tough to read something compared to seeing the execution on screen.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)

Frankly, if I had read spoilers and knew that the Mandalorian was about a bounty hunter carting around a baby Yoda, I would've thought they had lost their damn minds. But I love the show. So I'll take the spoilers with a grain of salt.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)

Just saw that earlier today.

I was under the impression that Making Star Wars was a mostly credible site, so I believed the info.
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Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
Just saw that earlier today.

I was under the impression that Making Star Wars was a mostly credible site, so I believed the info.
They are pretty good with spoilers but they are speculating on something that never hit production or even a final script, so I’m sure it would have different after re-writes/re-shoots.

It’s no different than Lucas originally having Han Solo as a green skinned monster in that first draft back in 1974-75. Yes, that is a true spoiler at the time but changed when he was developing the story. So I’m not saying this info was false (from a POV), but I highly doubt this would have been the Episode 9 we saw from Treverrow.
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13 more days... can't wait.
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First thing I thought of, too. Second thing was is it seriously too late to edit it, somehow?
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)

A batch of (alleged) spoilers about the reshoots got dropped on 4chan a couple of weeks ago; I didn't see them until today.

Sounds pretty bad, but I'm not going to give them much veracity as the poster claimed TROS would premiere a week early in Japan which isn't, to my knowledge, accurate. That, and, the fact that they're on 4chan.

ETA: The alleged spoilers can be read here for those who dare:

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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)

Negating the impact of prior events and character relationships/actions would be perfectly fitting for the end of the whole "Skywalker saga" as that's what Lucas originally did with Return of the Jedi all those years ago. Fans still laud the ridiculous emotional content of that steaming pile of tripe, so I'm sure there are plenty of six and seven year olds who will revere what goes down here for years to come.

If those spoilers turn out to be true, of course.
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Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
A batch of (alleged) spoilers about the reshoots got dropped on 4chan a couple of weeks ago; I didn't see them until today.

Sounds pretty bad, but I'm not going to give them much veracity as the poster claimed TROS would premiere a week early in Japan which isn't, to my knowledge, accurate. That, and, the fact that they're on 4chan.

ETA: The alleged spoilers can be read here for those who dare:



I have been saying for months (since I found out the return of Palpatine), that I think the movie will be entertaining up to the final act. The return of Palpatine and the 'The end of the Skyalker Saga' are great marketing ploys because it challenges you to see it if you were down on TFA/TLJ. It makes every SW fan say, "Well it's the end of the Skywalker Saga, so I have to see the final act." or "I'm interested to see how Palpatine comes back?" It's no different than many of my friends who didn't like TPM/AOTC, but saw Episode 3 because they wanted to see how Darth Vader came to be. That is how that movie was marketed it and it worked in getting people to see it, but his eventual turn to the darkside was the movie's undoing, IMO.

I feel Palpatine will eventually be the film's undoing because I still can't think of scenario of bringing him back that doesn't make my eyes roll. I will continue to say that the irony of the new Trilogy is that I have been intrigued and liked the new stuff (the new characters, Rey vs Kylo Light Dark Relationship, etc). But everytime they go to the well with an OT character, it just doesn't work for me and hurts the story they are trying to tell.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)

I cannot imagine that they will kill off
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every single OT character including the millennium falcon given the backlash of the sequels seemingly gunning for OT characters heads. I also don't see them building a land in Disney around a blown up ship that no longer exists... above all that makes little marketing sense.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (12/20/19, W/D: J.J. Abrams)

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I cannot imagine that they will kill off
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every single OT character including the millennium falcon given the backlash of the sequels seemingly gunning for OT characters heads. I also don't see them building a land in Disney around a blown up ship that no longer exists... above all that makes little marketing sense.

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Well they showed it in the last trailer. JJ Abrams has a thing about killing off iconic ships. First the Enterprise (TWICE), and now the Falcon.
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I didn’t read the alleged spoilers, but my initial reaction when considering the death of Chewbacca and the Falcon was anger and frustration. After thinking about it though, these last two films just haven’t resonated with me. I guess I could really say the last five. If that’s how they decide to end this saga, then I’ll just end the saga at ROTJ.
I’m watching the PT now and it’s just so uninteresting. I think the reason the OT is so important to me is the age at which I saw it. I grew up with those films, those figures and those books. I never really wondered what happened after Jedi since it wrapped everything up. I always wondered what happened before.
I wish the time gap between Jedi and the Phantom Menace wasn’t so long. I would have loved to grow up with that too.
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The adventures me and my friends came up with playing with the action figures post ROTJ were more interesting than the Sequel Trilogy so far for me.
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The adventures me and my friends came up with playing with the action figures post ROTJ were more interesting than the Sequel Trilogy so far for me.

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The Emperor stayed dead so maybe Disney should have.
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My emperor crossed over to the GI Joes and fucked with them for a while.
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My emperor crossed over to the GI Joes and fucked with them for a while.
A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.


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