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Old 09-11-13, 07:44 PM
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If I was an actor being considered for a role and I was told that I had to watch the prequels to prepare I would demand that I got an extra 15% total gross back end put into my contract on top of my salary.
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Originally Posted by Oliver Clothesoff
Moretz seems a little young to be Solo daughter. Grandkid, yes, but not daughter.
Hmm, you might be right. Depends on if we're going by Ford's age or Han's age.

How old is Han supposed to be in SW? 25 or so(to Luke's 17/18)? That put him at 55 in the new trilogy. Not unreasonable to have an 18 year old. However Ford at 70 definitely puts her in grand daughter range.
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Originally Posted by Oliver Clothesoff
Moretz seems a little young to be Solo daughter. Grandkid, yes, but not daughter.
I agree. She's only 16 and could pass for younger. There were two female roles up for grabs and (per the recent New York casting call) now they are only looking for one. On the chance Moretz did get a role, it's probably the "tough, smart and fit" female that was listed fifth on the casting sheet.

It appears the female lead described as "independent, good sense of humor" has yet to be cast. I'm not sure which one is supposed to be Han and Leia's daughter, but I'd buy someone like Hurd-Wood in that role over Moretz. And again, I like Chloe in general -- it's just her rabid fanbase with their #chloe4starwars Twitter campaign (and awful fan manips) that I find off-putting.
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Originally Posted by Oliver Clothesoff
Moretz seems a little young to be Solo daughter. Grandkid, yes, but not daughter.
You're probably right, but the SW movies have never followed the correct age of their characters. In the OT, Obiwan and Anakin are supposed to be much older. Anakin is supposed to be in his 60's in ROTJ (hence the usage of an older actor like Sebastian Shaw), yet if you do the math after the PT was made, he would be about mid 40's when he died in ROTJ.

I think they could get away with a 16-17 year old kid for Han/Leia and just assume Leia is in her mid/late 50's in Episode 7 meaning she had her kid(s) in her late 30's/early 40's).
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It's a galaxy far, far away. Who are we to say how they age?
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SOURCE

New rumors (still waiting for Disney to confirm)...

1) Possible Episode VII subtitle is "A New Dawn".
2) Pinewood Studios housing sets for Mos Eisley Cantina, a power plant, and a full-scale Milennium Falcon!
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Tatooine again?
Old 09-15-13, 08:23 AM
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Yeah. Seeing tattooine again doesn't rock.
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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
Tatooine again?
It's a very small galaxy.
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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
Overexposed? Maybe. imdb lists 15 roles since 2010, but how many were actually hits that put her in the limelight? Hit Girl. That's it that I can see. I guess Carrie has some potential, but I doubt she's as recognizable as implied.
Hugo was a big, high-profile, Oscar winning hit that made $185 Million worldwide. And a pretty great film to boot.
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Originally Posted by Solid Snake
Yeah. Seeing tattooine again doesn't rock.
If it came down to seeing original trilogy actors, or seeing original trilogy locations..... I would choose the latter.
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...ehhhhhh. Yeah, I guess.
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I'd rather see locations like Yavin IV again, since one of the EU novels has Luke's new Jedi Academy based there. Cloud City would be cool too, especially if they actually show Bespin.
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Bucky O'Hare? is that you?
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As far as I can tell. Everything EU was shit. Like fan fiction quality.
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Originally Posted by Solid Snake
As far as I can tell. Everything EU was shit. Like fan fiction quality.
Lucas apparently didn't think so, and Timothy Zahn's still hailed as one of the best "Star Wars" novelists, along with James Luceno. Check this out.

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Originally Posted by Solid Snake
As far as I can tell. Everything EU was shit. Like fan fiction quality.
Well that's incorrect. I read at least a few books that were good, but looking back, one of them seemed to have ripped off a plot point from Ender's Game. I think.
Old 09-15-13, 05:27 PM
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I never thought I would actually agree with moviefan on something, but I do agree with him on this.

Statements like "The EU is all crap" are just obnoxious as hell made by clueless people who don't have any idea what they are talking about.

Yes, a huge percentage of the EU is crap, but that holds true with anything and everything. Sturgeon's Law says 90% of everything is crap. 90% of movies are crap. Seriously, there are like a hundred movies made every year, and only ten or so are actually worth watching. 90% of video games, books, comics, music, etc. is all crap.

Heck, even with the Star Wars movies, there have only been two out of six that are objectively good movies. The others are guilty pleasures, but they really aren't objectively well made movies.

Most of the Bantam era of Star Wars EU from the 90s was pretty bad. Timothy Zahn, Michael Stackpole, and Aaron Allston were pretty much the only good writers during that era. I think most EU bashers are really just familiar with this era of the EU.

The quality started improving when Del Rey got the EU license in 1999. The New Jedi Order series was really good. The Clone Wars prequel era EU was also surprisingly good considering the source material (the prequel movies) they built off of was pretty bad. That Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter novel by Michael Reaves was just fricking badass. If only Episode 1 could have been half as good as that novel...
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Please, if it's anyone it'll be X-Wing @Aliciousness.
Old 09-15-13, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Solid Snake
As far as I can tell. Everything EU was shit. Like fan fiction quality.
I've read 2/3's of the Zahn Trilogy, Shadows of the Empire, and a few Dark Horse comics, and as far as the stuff I read, I agree with this statement.
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Originally Posted by taffer
I never thought I would actually agree with moviefan on something, but I do agree with him on this.
See? Miracles do happen...

Statements like "The EU is all crap" are just obnoxious as hell made by clueless people who don't have any idea what they are talking about.
Unfortunately, clueless people make up the majority of all debaters, regardless of the subject matter.

Sturgeon's Law says 90% of everything is crap.
I wonder if Sturgeon included his own ideas when forming that conclusion.

90% of movies are crap. Seriously, there are like a hundred movies made every year, and only ten or so are actually worth watching. 90% of video games, books, comics, music, etc. is all crap.
Sad, but true far more often than not.

Heck, even with the Star Wars movies, there have only been two out of six that are objectively good movies. The others are guilty pleasures, but they really aren't objectively well made movies.
I think all of them are very well-made, but some of the stories do suffer. Lucas admitted that Episode III didn't live up to his standards, because he spent too much time avoiding the core story in Episodes I & II. I think the number he quoted for "Sith" was about 60% of his original plans.
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Unfortunately, clueless people make up the majority of all debaters, regardless of the subject matter.
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I am so glad I'm not the only one that thought that.
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Originally Posted by Obi-Wan Jabroni
I've read 2/3's of the Zahn Trilogy, Shadows of the Empire, and a few Dark Horse comics, and as far as the stuff I read, I agree with this statement.
So you have only read three books (two of which are by the same author) and came to that conclusion?

Shadows of the Empire isn't really that good. It was hyped up as a big multimedia event with action figures, a video game, a comic book series, and a novel. The novel itself has never been regarded as being one of the good pieces of EU.

They repeated that whole multimedia event thing a few years ago with The Force Unleashed. It wasn't very good either.

Try reading the X-Wing series by Michael Stackpole and Aaron Allston. Those are good EU books from the 90s Bantam era. They are better than Zahn's trilogy. Zahn was okay, but I feel his work is overrated. He basically created the EU, but his Thrawn trilogy is far from the best EU out there.


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